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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141526: Apr 16th 2022 at 7:48:22 PM

[up]And Stick treats him like an idiot in Defenders because, y'know, he left his goddamn phone on him with location enabled while the Hand was after them.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#141527: Apr 16th 2022 at 8:06:47 PM

I honestly think Daredevil and Punisher are probably the only Netflix shows that have a solid chance of being rebooted with the same cast.

There are the aforementioned problems with Iron Fist, but the leads for Jessica Jones and Luke Cage will probably just not be available any time soon.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141528: Apr 17th 2022 at 12:09:55 AM

Ya know it's a funny thought, imagine that it's time for the Tournament of Heaven, a major competition between the secret cities. Their Immortal Weapons compete for the position of when their city enters the material every 10 years. With each other city gets a succeeding amount of extra years to the loser being only allowed in the phsyical world every 50 years.

So Kun'Lun calls their Immortal Weapon, the guy they've been training for exactly this opportunity and..... some random woman shows up.

They would be so confused and pissed. [lol]

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 17th 2022 at 12:10:27 PM

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#141529: Apr 17th 2022 at 12:56:04 AM

I would love a more faithful version of the Bride of Nine Spiders.

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#141530: Apr 17th 2022 at 1:41:12 AM

Black Bolt is awesome and his actor deserves another shot at the role. He made up an entire sign language for the character!

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Vault Dweller
#141531: Apr 17th 2022 at 4:48:23 AM

but the leads for Jessica Jones and Luke Cage will probably just not be available any time soon.

That won't be a problem at all. They can just work around the actors' schedules as necessary.

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#141532: Apr 17th 2022 at 10:35:16 AM

[up][up] Maybe he'll show up as part of the Illuminati? He was a member in the comics.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#141533: Apr 17th 2022 at 10:45:45 AM

I'm still of the mind that Marvel Studios refuses to touch anything Inhumans related with a ten-foot pole.

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#141534: Apr 17th 2022 at 11:56:29 AM

I very much don’t want the Illuminati to show up in the MCU

Small miracles that Tony won’t be part of it if it does

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141535: Apr 17th 2022 at 12:22:10 PM

I can't stop thinking about the ramifications of Danny giivng the Iron Fist to Colleen, it's a fascinating thought.

Like Danny's relationship with Kun'Lun is always tenuous because he's another IF shirking his duties by traveling the world.

But I can't imagine they'll be none too pleased that Danny gave their very valued power that is a cultural symbol to an outsider.

They would be extremely furious.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#141536: Apr 17th 2022 at 12:28:27 PM

I mean, they got wiped out and shit stomped by the Hand because Danny wasn't there to guard the gates (and wow, why did they have him do that? It's like they wanted us to hate him), so I don't think there's much left they can say on that front.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141537: Apr 17th 2022 at 12:31:18 PM

Oh their dead? Well that's no longer a problem then. What a cop-out. [lol]

Now hopefully the secret city doesn't exist otherwise they'll send a demon monster on Colleen's 35th birthday to kill her.

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#141538: Apr 17th 2022 at 12:41:16 PM

I think the Netflix Iron Fist didn't have the budget to do a secret martial arts city so got rid of it A S A P

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#141539: Apr 17th 2022 at 1:32:36 PM

I very much don’t want the Illuminati to show up in the MCU

Small miracles that Tony won’t be part of it if it does

Yeah, about that...

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#141540: Apr 17th 2022 at 1:35:38 PM

Welp is all I have to say to that.

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jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#141541: Apr 17th 2022 at 1:43:31 PM

[up][up]Is that leak confirmed?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141542: Apr 17th 2022 at 1:55:05 PM

[up][up][up][up] Shows that Iron Fist was way of the Netflix wheelbarrow.

All the Netflix shows are gritty crime dramas with pared down super stuff, whils IF is a wuxia which much more over superpowers.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#141543: Apr 17th 2022 at 2:05:48 PM

Daredevil Season 2 (in it's second half) also very much had a focus on the supernatural.

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The sleepiest good boi
#141544: Apr 17th 2022 at 2:11:53 PM

[up][up][up]Not officially, but it's very omnipresent and has been backed up by certain leakers who got very specific stuff about NWH correct, so I'm guessing it's going to happen.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#141545: Apr 17th 2022 at 2:12:41 PM

I feel that if Marvel Studios does anything with the Iron Fist lore, they'll reveal that K'un Lun is just fine. They can do it Justice now.

Edited by Cortez on Apr 17th 2022 at 7:04:48 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#141546: Apr 17th 2022 at 2:19:45 PM

We don't know what happened to K'un-lun in Iron Fist. It's just... not there.

I figured they left it ambiguous contingent on their budget; if they ever got the budget to actually show it, then wow, turns out they hid the whole city when the Hand attacked and it's been there all along. If not, well, I guess it really was just destroyed.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Apr 17th 2022 at 5:20:14 AM

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#141547: Apr 17th 2022 at 2:55:32 PM

Considering the guy behind the first Iron Fist season was the same genius who cut Medusa's hair so she can't use her powers I would say yes, the decision to make K'un-Lun pretty much gone was most definitely one that started as a budget concern and was worked backwards from there.

Edited by Watchtower on Apr 17th 2022 at 5:56:06 AM

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#141549: Apr 17th 2022 at 4:04:31 PM

[up]×2

Exactly. It probably didn't help that Inhumans was a Perlmutter project.

Makes me wish Iron Fist was being adapted now. It would have had a better budget

Edited by Cortez on Apr 17th 2022 at 8:18:17 AM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#141550: Apr 17th 2022 at 4:28:46 PM

Right, I'm just saying the show was conveniently ambiguous enough about the city's fate that they could have K'un-lun reappear without it being a blatant retcon.

If they continued the show with a third season and Disney+ budget (unlikely though that may be) it'd be nice to see K'un-lun for real.

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