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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#141351: Apr 9th 2022 at 8:32:39 PM

[up]Somehow, Toni Ho returned.

Edited by lbssb on Apr 9th 2022 at 8:32:52 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#141352: Apr 9th 2022 at 8:33:57 PM

Or rather...Somehow, Toni Ho exists.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#141353: Apr 9th 2022 at 9:08:21 PM

With the power of retcon, anything can happen!

Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#141354: Apr 9th 2022 at 9:13:29 PM

They could simply say she's his niece.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#141355: Apr 9th 2022 at 9:20:32 PM

That would also be good, because ideally, I want Toni and Morgan to be around the same age.

AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Otaku
#141356: Apr 9th 2022 at 9:27:16 PM

Toni Ho should be portrayed by Momona Tamada.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#141357: Apr 9th 2022 at 10:00:01 PM

I want to get in on this conversation, but I keep wanting to make a joke about Toni getting her own train.

And like, wrestling fans will get it, and then immediately (and rightly) want to see me dragged out into the street and shot.

But getting serious, Toni being a niece of Yinsen would work. Ooh. Maybe reveal that a relative of Yinsen was in Gulmira when Tony made his debut and named her in the late Iron Man's honour.

Bonus points if they have no clue Tony even knew Yinsen.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#141358: Apr 9th 2022 at 11:58:50 PM

<looks up Toni Ho>

Huh. So she's like the Token Heroic Orc to A.I.M? The Chris Redfield to A.I.M.'s New Umbrella? That's interesting.

There's a bunch of "the young generation related to classic Iron Man characters" characters that I'm a bit surprised haven't made it into the MCU yet. Zeke Stane, Sasha Hammer, etc. Back when Agents of SHIELD was current I was sure they would be adapted there, but it'd also be interested now to see them in something like Ironheart - for instance.

I really wanted Justine Hammer (Sasha's mother) to show up for a while, also. It'd be an interesting way to add a bit of mystery about culprits and such if they adapt the Masters of Evil.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 10th 2022 at 12:00:44 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141359: Apr 10th 2022 at 12:04:35 AM

She had an interesting arc in US Avengers where she is a pacifist who doesn't make weapons but she's modsing her Iron Patriot suit (which is a mini-mecha for her) with so much offensive shit she's basically weapnizng it.

Her girlfriend calling her out on it was a huge eye-opener for it especially how she tends to emphasize a lot that she isn't like Tony Stark.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#141360: Apr 10th 2022 at 3:43:07 AM

Everyone's asking what Morgan's up to, but I kind wonder what Pepper's up to. Happy Hogan has been a supporting character in two Spider-Man movies (basically just a background character in the third, though) but I don't remember hearing anything about her.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#141361: Apr 10th 2022 at 6:37:49 PM

Well, a lot of people aren't exactly eager to see her actress again, but who knows?

Wake me up at your own risk.
fanman "To watch it all burn." from Earth-Prime/Earth-1218 Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
"To watch it all burn."
#141362: Apr 10th 2022 at 6:47:43 PM

Yeah, I forgot how toxic fans harassed Lexi Rabe. I really hope she doesn't turn out like Jake Lloyd.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#141363: Apr 10th 2022 at 6:57:44 PM

Wait, why did fans harass Lexi Rabe?

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#141364: Apr 10th 2022 at 7:03:59 PM

[up][up]I think Blueace meant Gwenneth Paltrow.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#141365: Apr 10th 2022 at 7:04:43 PM

I thought Blueace was talking about Gwyneth Paltrow.

[nja]'d.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 10th 2022 at 7:05:00 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#141366: Apr 10th 2022 at 7:15:52 PM

Paltrow has that goop thing right?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 10th 2022 at 10:16:02 AM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#141367: Apr 10th 2022 at 7:24:56 PM

Y'know, I do remember reading something about Lexi Rabe being harassed by fans a while back, but I honestly have zero idea what it was about. I think she was pretty good in Endgame.

I can understand the general disdain for Gwyneth Paltrow though. She is kind of weird and gross.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#141368: Apr 10th 2022 at 7:28:10 PM

Very weird and gross indeed. I appreciate the lampooning of her in Knives Out.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#141369: Apr 10th 2022 at 7:31:17 PM

[up] I...must have missed that on my first viewing. I might have to give it another go.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
diddyknux Straw Hat Robin (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Straw Hat Robin
#141370: Apr 10th 2022 at 7:44:57 PM

Hmm. I guess I didn't realize all that. The internet can be really weird with how it criticizes stars sometimes, so its a little hard to keep track of what things are legit and what things are people blowing things out of proportion/making assumptions.

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141371: Apr 10th 2022 at 7:46:15 PM

Yeah, allllll set with the dumb ass woowoo she peddles and the people who enable it.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141372: Apr 13th 2022 at 4:39:57 AM

Huh so we got a toy leak for Thor Love and Thunder

Provides some potential first looks at the characters.

Not a fan of Gorr's apparent priest look.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 13th 2022 at 4:41:10 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141373: Apr 13th 2022 at 7:36:35 AM

So with the Netflix-verse now canon, what plots do you want to see post-Blip? I know that Bernthal wanted Barracuda in Punisher, and this is actually a perfect time to introduce him. The idea is that Fisk, desperate to restore his former glory and giving very few fucks about how he does it, hires Barracuda as an enforcer to deal with both the Hand and other gangs and crime lords, only to have him get way out of hand and create a potentially city-destabilizing threat. You'd obviously have to tone down some of his depravity, but a Joker/Goblin-esque take on him (ultra-violent nihilist and Social Darwinist who is in the mercenary game more out of bloodlust than anything else) would suffice. He'd probably start off as just the Punisher's domain, only for Frank to have to turn to the Defenders for aid because Barracuda is just that dangerous.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#141374: Apr 13th 2022 at 9:53:06 AM

Barracuda is a notoriously dicey character racially speaking, so maybe they could start more calmly with a take on Jigsaw that isn't actually dogshit. I'd like that.

I'd like to see Bullseye in proper form after the hook at DD season 3.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141375: Apr 13th 2022 at 10:13:46 AM

Keeping his core characterization the same while excising his problematic traits wouldn't be hard. Play up the evil military genius part and the sympathetic aspects of his backstory, but contrast it with how willingly he gave himself over to evil.


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