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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#141201: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:17:49 AM

I'm honestly not sure how noble Dr Doom could be written in the MCU, since the adaptational Nice Guy and the adaptational Jerkass are very common. (Not to mention that he himself varies between writer and writer)

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#141202: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:18:38 AM

According to the costume designer's cast listing, it appears that Daredevil and Kingpin will appear in Echo. Honestly, this isn't surprising at all since Echo first appeared in the comics as a Daredevil character.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Apr 5th 2022 at 1:19:45 PM

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#141203: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:20:14 AM

Secret War, singular, was a black ops mission recruiting superheroes to carry out an espionage mission in Latveria, which went south in a hurry and resulted in Nick Fury being deposed as Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. This served as a lead-in to Civil War, appointing the much more morally questionable Maria Hill to the position so that she could make the plot-requisite bad calls.

Secret Wars, plural, are a few different storylines that typically center around mushing superheroes and villains together into a battle space. The original event featured an omnipotent being called the Beyonder creating Battleworld, a place for capes to wage open war against each other in a fight for supremacy. IIRC, it culminated in Doom trying to seize the Beyonder's power for his own, because that's how Doom rolls.

There have been a number of sequel events to Secret Wars, plural. The most recent Secret Wars was the culmination of a conflict in which the entire Multiverse was annihilated by mashing universes into each other and destroying them. The Beyonder was now a race of Beyonders, and Doom successfully stole their power in order to create his own Battleworld which he ruled as God-Emperor.

This new Battleworld was a mashup of every major known universe in the Marvel multiverse plus countless new ones. Every realm had its own miniseries and was dedicated to a major comic event from Marvel's history. There was a world where the superhero civil war had never ended, a world for the Age of Apocalypse, the Ultimate universe, the Old Man Logan universe, etc. etc. all mashed into one large world with borders drawn between each realm, frequently conflicting with each other.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 5th 2022 at 10:21:52 AM

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#141204: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:21:27 AM

[up]X6 Secret Wars 1984 was one Beyonder kidnapping the heroes and villains of Marvel, including Galactus, to Battleworld to play out the ultimate battle between good and evil. Doom takes the Beyonder's powers but loses them. Secret Wars 2015 was an entire race of Beyonders destroying the multiverse. Doom and fellow F4 villain Molecule Man kill the Beyonders, with Doom taking their omnipotent powers, but it's too late to save the multiverse. Doom then uses his newfound phenomenal cosmic power to create a new Batteworld, which is basically a Frankenstein-ed universe of the remains of the destroyed ones.

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#141205: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:24:00 AM

Sorry, ignore my last post, someone already answered the question in more detail.

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#141206: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:28:51 AM

The original Secret Wars storyline was created for a toyline, correct?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#141207: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:32:22 AM

indeed it was

.."They wanted to have something that reflected the name of their toy line."

Shooter: Mattel said, "Can you do some kind of big event that gets a lot of publicity, so we have something to base our marketing on?"

De Falco: There were a lot of negotiations, and in the end we finally got Marvel Superheroes Secret Wars. Secret Wars was their idea. We were not thrilled with the name.

Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 5th 2022 at 5:33:05 PM

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#141208: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:36:20 AM

Secret Events are the Marvel equivalent to DC's Crisis events.

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#141209: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:38:56 AM

Meanwhile, in Secret Wars 2: Electric Boogaloo, the Beyonder arrives to Earth and all the heroes try to stop him. However, the Beyonder has a child-like mentality and prefers to just explore the world. At some point, he accidentally hires a prostitute, not knowing what that entitles to. Her pimp finds out about his powers of producing gold out of nowhere and befriends the Beyonder, and makes all of his sex workers to please him.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_20220405_123201_marvel_unlimited.jpg

Edited by Akirakan on Apr 5th 2022 at 12:39:08 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#141210: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:40:59 AM

Beyonders are a race of God Modders,seriously!

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#141211: Apr 5th 2022 at 10:42:57 AM

Peter also has to teach mortal Beyonder how to take a dump.

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#141212: Apr 5th 2022 at 11:23:16 AM

I wonder if they'll include J Jonah Jameson in other Marvel films/shows commenting on the events in them. Maybe not stuff unknown to the general public (ie, Wandavision, the space/mystical stuff) but it would have been interesting to get his opinion on the events of Falcon and Winter Soldier.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#141213: Apr 5th 2022 at 11:31:20 AM

[up]IDK, Sony might not allow it, and would probably rather steal him for their universe, since they already stole Vulture.

Edited by lbssb on Apr 5th 2022 at 11:31:29 AM

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#141214: Apr 5th 2022 at 11:33:47 AM

They explicitly did not steal him for their universe. We see him in the denouement to No Way Home. He's still in the MCU.

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#141215: Apr 5th 2022 at 12:45:54 PM

Regardless, Sony is definitely protective of anything Spider-Man related, and seem to only want any of his affiliated characters to be used if Spider-Man is heavily involved in the story. Which means I highly doubt J. Jonah Jameson would show up in any non-Sony Marvel productions.

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#141216: Apr 5th 2022 at 1:02:59 PM

Considering, a huge statue has partially risen straight from the ocean after record natural disasters and then an even bigger alien that kind of looks like that statue arrives in the sky and tells someone he'll decide whether humanity was worth the death of a Celestial, news articles in the MCU must be... interesting to say the least.

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#141217: Apr 5th 2022 at 1:09:02 PM
Thumped: Please see The Rules . This is a warning that this post is the sort of thing that will get you suspended.
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#141218: Apr 5th 2022 at 2:35:20 PM

"Experts Release Report On Way Better Uses Of Infinity Gauntlet" - good one.

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141219: Apr 5th 2022 at 2:43:14 PM

Tiamut's statue appearing in the ocean and Arishem suddenly appearing in the sky probably attracted some attention, but I feel like it takes a LOT to really faze the average citizen in the MCU these days.

Edited by HasturHasturHastur on Apr 5th 2022 at 2:43:36 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#141220: Apr 5th 2022 at 2:44:29 PM

It would take Namor climbing out of the Ocean to slap them with a trout to cause any sort of reaction

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#141221: Apr 5th 2022 at 2:58:53 PM

I feel like Tiamut even getting as far through the earth's crust as he did should have destroyed the world.

And even if that didn't, now he's a granite heat conductor stretching deep into the planet. Should the oceans around him be boiling, or is he not much more conductive than the crust already was?

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#141222: Apr 5th 2022 at 3:34:04 PM

So, how long until somebody starts building condos on Tiamut?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#141223: Apr 5th 2022 at 8:51:47 PM

Concerning the discussion of Doom reforming and becoming a great hero...

That did happen in his 2019 solo miniseries comic. An alternate universe version of Doom really did become a universe saving hero and built a great life for himself. He even showed 616 Doom how great everything is and that he could have that in his universe too.

Except he did it by letting go of his grudge with Reed Richards and becoming his best friend.

So 616 Doom murdered his counterpart and used the Ultimate Nullifier to destroy that entire universe.

Disgusted, but not surprised
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#141224: Apr 5th 2022 at 9:18:07 PM

[up]

Of course he did.

Doom's a prick like that.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#141225: Apr 6th 2022 at 12:30:20 AM

The whole point of the miniseries was ultimately about hammering in that Doom is a jackass.

Edited by M84 on Apr 7th 2022 at 3:30:47 AM

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