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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#139176: Jan 27th 2022 at 8:35:02 AM

Just wait for a Mephisto gag where he shows up and does nothing sinister but is like "Yeah,I'm the devil practically,and?"

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Weirdguy149 The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher from A cabin in the woods Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher
#139177: Jan 27th 2022 at 8:40:10 AM

"I am the Prince of Darkness and the Father of Lies, but what do people call me up for? Not power or fame, no, divorce. Just get a lawyer for that, and no, I am not doing the tired joke."- Mephisto, probably.

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#139178: Jan 27th 2022 at 8:56:48 AM

Mephisto vs Matt Murdock in a divorce case

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#139179: Jan 27th 2022 at 10:25:01 AM

Mephisto better watch out. Matt's a really good lawyer.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#139180: Jan 27th 2022 at 10:44:58 AM

Will Matt have to defeat him in a fiddle contest though?

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Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#139182: Jan 27th 2022 at 10:49:40 AM

Mat would get rules lawyered so hard,seriously,do not argue with the devil!

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FGHIK from right behind you Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#139183: Jan 27th 2022 at 10:51:37 AM

I'd love to see Mephisto try a Deal with the Devil only for Matt to annihilate him with legal technicalities

I missed the part where that's my problem.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#139184: Jan 27th 2022 at 10:54:15 AM

I bet he would resort to

"If you claim not to believe in a God,how can you claim to argue with the devil?"

boom

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#139185: Jan 27th 2022 at 11:02:19 AM

The only problem is that Mephisto could call for a mistrial due to romantic history between him and Matt

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MatthewWayne The Man Outside Reality from TVA Headquarters Since: Oct, 2014
The Man Outside Reality
#139186: Jan 27th 2022 at 11:17:13 AM

If there's anything I want to see Matt Murdock do, it's trying to defend someone put on the stand by the TVA. That would be one hell of a legal battle.

Trust no one.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#139187: Jan 27th 2022 at 11:21:56 AM

The ideal court case would be Arishem as the Judge, a alternate version of Ronan the Accuser as the prosecutor, and Matt Murdock as the lawyer.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#139188: Jan 27th 2022 at 11:54:24 AM

Great now Evangine Lilly can join Letitia Wright on the glorious and not at all very stupid anti-vax train...

In short she was at the recent Anti-Vax protest in DC.

Edited by jjjj2 on Jan 27th 2022 at 2:54:47 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#139189: Jan 27th 2022 at 11:56:42 AM

Wow Hope Pym really is the shitty Wasp.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#139190: Jan 27th 2022 at 11:58:36 AM

More specifically, seems like she is in the "Pro Vax, but Anti-Vax Mandate" camp.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#139191: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:03:42 PM

Way back when the pandemic started she complained about quarantines but backtracked after criticism. Guess she didn’t change much at all though.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#139193: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:13:54 PM

It’s Nadia VanDyne time.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 27th 2022 at 12:14:17 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#139194: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:15:29 PM

[up] Technically thats still Hope. tongue

Huh after all my ragging on Hope there is now an actual reason to detest the character..... well actress playing her.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#139195: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:17:37 PM

[up]

You didn't like Hope?

....was it the way she treated Scott (like getting him arrested, or only talking to him when he said they could help them find Janet)?

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DoubleOG Since: Jun, 2021
#139196: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:25:38 PM

[up] He doesn't like that Hope was created to effectively replace Janet as Wasp I think.

AyyItsMidnight Ordinary Corrupt Android Love Since: Oct, 2018
Ordinary Corrupt Android Love
#139197: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:26:29 PM

Wow, ok. So this is how it’s gonna be. Come on, man.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#139198: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:30:24 PM

[up][up] More or less that.

I just prefer Janet as a character over Hope especially since Hope's relationship with Scott is a pretty generic "Man & Woman Bicker a Shit Ton" dynamic.

Hope was primarily created because due to the shift to Scott as the main Ant-Man with Hank turned into an old-man they wound taking Janet out of play since she's Hank's partner while Scott never had his own Wasp.

So they had to create a new character to fill in for Wasp.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 27th 2022 at 12:32:02 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MatthewWayne The Man Outside Reality from TVA Headquarters Since: Oct, 2014
The Man Outside Reality
#139199: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:37:34 PM

"Aw shit, here we go again."

Why is it always my favorite actresses in the MCU that turn out to be problematic?

Trust no one.
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#139200: Jan 27th 2022 at 12:38:14 PM

Oh, come on! Really?!

Okay, I can understand that taking a prototype vaccine sounds super-dodgy on paper because it makes us feel like guinea pigs and you'd rather wait for like a definitive vaccine and not some prototype of one that might end up killing you anyway, but come on!

I hate COVID. I hate how it's dividing us. It's just not fair. sad


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