Marvel Cinematic Universe

If Ms Marvel is being more closely tied to Carol then it might not be a terrigen mist

Although since she’s getting a start in a show first they still might because Inhumans is an easy excuse for why super powered opponents might show up

Edited by Bocaj on May 4th 2021 at 10:57:30 AM

It's gonna be a good while before they touch stuff like the Royal Family, really. Who knows if they are ever gonna touch the Nuhumans or whatever they were named, since Marvel seems to have given up on the concept.

There are a few options that I see with Kamala Khan.

The simplest is that she's an inhuman...technically. Her exposure to the terragen mist is a one-off event, and they don't really dive into the deeper lore of the inhumans beyond being humans with traces of alien DNA.

Changing her to not be an inhuman and having her powers from a different source entirely is always possible. I don't want to say mutants, since I don't want to fall into the trap of always predicting mutants from every piece of MCU media for years to come.

You're probably not the only one thinking "Just make her a mutant", but I think we're going to get a non-Inhuman, non-mutant explanation.

The biggest proponents of “make Kamala a mutant” were also the ones who shouted loudest about Wanda and Wanda’s brother not being mutants

John Ridley to pen the screenplay for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

No, it says he is writing the new BP ongoing. The site speculates that he might be involved in WF, but he is not officially writing the script.

There is really nothing wrong with keeping Kamala as an Inhuman and just scaling the Terrigen bomb down to a smaller area. The Avengers game already goes this route, just gotta change it from San Fransisco to Jersey City or wherever else.

This question only gets brought up because people are way too invested in having the Inhumans Exiled from Continuity in response to the Scrappy status they've attained with the Inhumans push, which honestly sucks. The Inhumans and the Royal Family need serious rehabbing but it can be done and they deserve to exist.

How about, there are individual Inhumans due to the gas but no Royal Family?You can still have characters like Lock Jaw,Mesdusa,Black Bolt but they're not subjecting anyone

Honestly, I think the first CM was already a loose spiritual adaptation of the whole Rogue incident, what with it being about Carol gradually rediscovering her past and the connections she had to people in her previous life.

Ugh, sorry guys, I should have read the article more thoroughly.

A scaled down terragin bomb to just Jersey City could work, though it would probably dominate the plot of the Ms. Marvel show. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it would limit the directions the show could go.

Alternatively it could be scaled down so small so Kamala Khan is the only Inhuman impacted, if the show isn't really going to feature other Inhumans.

I think the bigger issue with having Kamala be an Inhuman is that it threatens to give a definitive answer to the "is Agents of SHIELD canon?" question.

'Cause that show already had terrigenesis chemicals spread around the world, awakening Inhuman powers in a whole bunch of people. And (unless I'm remembering wrong) this was all public knowledge, right? Like, you could go up to a random person on the street, ask them what an Inhuman was, and they'd be able to give you the gist of it?

So, if Kamala is an Inhuman, then when she gets her powers ... like, they could script it in such a way that the audience is told what an Inhuman is and how they work, even though for Kamala and everyone else that should be old information. But it'd hardly be the most natural way to do exposition like that, and with everything we've seen from the (lack of) relationship between the ABC shows and the movies, it seems doubtful whether they'd bother.

Just make Ao S canon, but don't touch up on it mostly afterwards with Kamala being roughly a fresh start for Inhumans.

Huh Ridley’s also writing BP now.

Well it’s prolly a better deal since he is no longer gonna get Batman.

Edited by slimcoder on May 4th 2021 at 12:43:18 PM

Ridley is too big to get into Wakanda Forever.

I've pretty much made my peace with AoS being de facto non-canon regardless of whatever else it is.

As is it's fundamentally impossible to reconcile the timeline of the last 2 seasons with what happened at the end of Infinity War.

That's just false, on the face of it.

WandaVision outright ignored AoS's version of the Darkhold and made its own version, so that's another point towards that show's decanonization.

Edited by lbssb on May 4th 2021 at 1:55:53 AM

Just give it the Star Wars Legends treatment. It's non-canon, but certain things from it get reintroduced or retread. It's the same thing that's going to have to happen with the Netflix characters, should they show up.

That would free up some of the character they used for better roles anyway. I'd really like a good Titania / Absorbing Man Battle Couple in She-Hulk, which would be impossible if AOS was totally canon given that it's Absorbing Man is really most sincerely dead.

AoS used a good handful of noteworthy characters across the spectrum over its runtime: Quake, Mr. Hyde, Mockingbird, Absorbing Man, the second Ghost Rider (with a flashback showing the first), Deathlok (though with a different character), etc. You can't use any of these characters (except again Deathlok) without coming face-first with whether or not AoS is still canon, and sooner or later they're gonna have to rip the band-aid off. The Inhumans are particularly tricky because canonizing AoS means suddenly integrating this Secret War Mêlée à Trois between Shield, Hydra, and this secret Inhuman society that has technically already done Inhumanity.

Like, I'm 90% sure the divide between the movies and AOS is entirely Permulter's fault.

But then again, I never kept full track of those politics.

All I know is that Marvel seems to be stuck in a rut with what to do with AOS, because it can't use any of the stuff that series introduced without contradicting it, or just denying it.

I mean, we know at least one other Nuhuman on Ms. Marvel's show. Kamran, Kamala's evil ex-boyfriend was confirmed for the show a while ago.

"If you paid attention to Agents Of SHIELD, then pay attention to this announcement: 'We might reuse some stuff, we might even pull stuff from it, but it's only ever as canon as we need it to be.' Thank you."

Is that a quote?