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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I enjoyed Wanda Vision a lot more. I think in general WV was much more consistently solid in quality than TFATWS. I also just think WV was able to more successfully tackle the themes it was going for than TFATWS was able to—generally, I think TFATWS tried to tackle way too much and ended being unsuccessful at handling any of what it tried to address.
Edited by DeathsApprentice on Apr 29th 2021 at 5:17:45 AM
When we're done, there won't be anything left.I want to judge for myself whether it's good or not, I don't want to hear "the ending sucks, so you shouldn't even bother", because that's leading me in one direction or another. I don't want to go into the series expecting the ending to be bad, and I also don't want to go into it wanting to like it out of spite.
If anything, it's more annoying to me personally than just spoiling what happens in it because it's forcing me to watch the show differently. At least when I know what's going to happen, I can predict how I'm gonna feel about it. Now, I have to go into it expecting one thing or another and overthinking it for no reason.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 29th 2021 at 2:30:13 AM
On further thought the typical JL line-up is more titanic. A team comprised of the characters with the highest power-ceilings like Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Flash in the DCU does make them feel like Gods.
Though Avengers themselves has a good power ceiling. The ultimate patriot, the ultimate machinist, a literal God, and a pillar of absolute ultimate strength. Which just leaves Hawkeye and Black Widow to stick out like sore thumbs because neither are the ultimate anything.
Edited by slimcoder on Apr 29th 2021 at 2:29:26 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Well, doesn't really matter what you "want" to hear or not, this thread is for exchanging opinions, if you want your experience completely undiluted by any outside things, it's best to stay off of online fandom discussions.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianBlack Widow is sometimes styled the ultimate spy
Being ultimate kind of ruins Hawkeye’s point as a skilled Joe who can keep up with the other Avengers so it’s fine being “just” one of if not the best archer in the world
Forever liveblogging the AvengersHonestly, given how... mixed the cinematic portrayals of the Justice League have been, it'd probably be for the best not to go in a villain direction with the Squadron Supreme. Otherwise, it comes across as kicking someone while they're down (or just getting up after losing a leg, if you count the Snyder Cut).
Edited by chasemaddigan on Apr 29th 2021 at 5:42:25 AM
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That tends to be the issue with Badass Normal characters everywhere. They may be incredibly good in their field, they still suffer the comparison when in the same team as a physical god.
Well, apart from Batman, who went through the exact opposite.
Edited by C105 on Apr 29th 2021 at 11:40:51 AM
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Well the original Hyperion at least.
Batman has the thing of having an incredible intellect. He's the tactics and strategy guy which makes him valuable despite being a human.
Neither Widow or Hawkeye are the smart guys, thats Tony's job.
Edited by slimcoder on Apr 29th 2021 at 2:43:09 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."@PMC: You could have worded that more diplomatically rather than telling me to shut up. That was much ruder than anything I did.
Edited by Gaon on Apr 29th 2021 at 2:47:01 AM
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Really?
Makes sense. Explains why I don't really know them.
Dafuq?
One Strip! One Strip!While promoting an original YouTube animated series, Lupita Nyong'o spoke about doing
Black Panther II without Boseman:
“But at the same time we have a leader in Ryan, who feels very much like we do, who feels the loss in a very, very real way as well. And his idea, the way which he has reshaped the second movie is so respectful of the loss we’ve all experienced as a cast and as a world. So it feels spiritually and emotionally correct to do this. And hopefully, what I do look forward to, is getting back together and honoring what he started with us and holding his light through it. Because he left us a lot of light that we’re still going to be bathing in. I know that for sure.”
Emphasis is mine. It reads like BP2 could take place during the five year time skip that happened in Endgame, but I honestly don't know.
Extremely late on this, but I can't stop agreeing with Watchtower on their "Recasting T'Challa" reasoning.
I mean, doing this or sticking with not recasting are equally tough paths. Marvel insisted they wouldn't recast, so why can't we just let this go? (But One Above All help me, I kinda still want a recast to happen...)
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 3rd 2021 at 8:08:47 AM
@PMC: That's just my opinion on the show, man. I wasn't rude to you or anyone at any point here. I don't think it justifies you being rude to me back. As pointed out, this is more a thing you have (Hell it surprises me you aren't mad at more people, considering everyone on earth is bombarding social media and this thread with their opinions on the show, yet only mine gets singled out). You can't expect me to be precognitive.
I'm willing to accommodate you and let bygones be bygones, no problem, particularly since I think we have a solid rapport in other threads, but that was rude for no reason. Don't do it again and consider apologizing.
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The Champions of Angor in fact.
Edited by Bocaj on Apr 29th 2021 at 6:27:26 AM
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI don't use Twitter, Facebook, etc. This thread is literally the only place I talk about the Marvel Cinematic Universe and you are literally the only person I've seen talking about the ending of that show, because I have gone out of my way to avoid seeing anyone else talk about it.
Sorry for being rude, but this is the second time you've shit-talked the ending in here, I ignored it the first time you said it.
Very well. Apologies accepted and I'll steer clear of talking about the ending here.
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A better way to put everything you've tried to say on the subject thus far is "I'm just starting to get into the show, would it be fine if we didn't talk about it for a while?" - a thing that does come up in this forum quite a bit and for which people tend to be fairly accommodating. We've put moratoriums on posting (or, more often, have temporarily adopted spoiler tags) for stuff that's years old for people just getting into them, let alone for stuff that just ended a week ago.
To be honest, if you were concerned about getting spoiled, your (preferably non-rude) response should have been to the conversation in the first place (given that it was literally a "let's compare these two shows convo") and not the one person who responded to it with a negative opinion.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 29th 2021 at 3:43:18 AM
Anyways, I want to change subject. The Masters of Evil are a villainous group that opposes the Avengers. However, despite appearing in various cartoons and a two appearances in video games, they haven't appeared in the MCU yet.
So, how would you introduce the Masters of Evil into the MCU and build up as an antagonist for a future Avengers installment?

So, I'm two episodes into Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and I'm enjoying it so far.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 29th 2021 at 2:59:11 AM