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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

copperglass Since: Aug, 2020
#127276: Apr 25th 2021 at 8:36:56 PM

It's very possible Marvel might drop a trailer soon, pasted with "Academy-Award winning director" with her name. And I'm all for it.

There's rumors floating around that Eternals might be a push toward the Oscar ceremonies for next year, and looking at the sheer caliber of the cast, I'm inclined to believe it.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#127277: Apr 25th 2021 at 8:45:24 PM

[up]A full on Jack Kirby epic winning an Oscar would be amazing.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#127278: Apr 25th 2021 at 8:57:12 PM

I think pigs will fly before that happens, but I'd be pleasantly (very) surprised.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#127279: Apr 25th 2021 at 9:05:24 PM

I am in the "suspecting Marvel has a "From Academy Award winner Chloe Zhao" trailer waiting in the wings and that's why marketing for Eternals has been crickets so far" camp, so I imagine we'll start getting promo soon.

Just so everyone's aware, the only MCU film to win Oscars is Black Panther with three; some others have been nominated mostly in the technicals.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#127280: Apr 25th 2021 at 9:06:29 PM

Eternals may have a chance since signs appear to showcase that it will be a more nonstandard and ambitious movie.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#127281: Apr 25th 2021 at 9:48:11 PM

I'm really hopeful for Eternals, but also worried because I was hopeful for the Inhumans movie in the exact same way, and you all know how that turned out. I just feel a really ominous sense of deja vu when it comes to thinking about Eternals.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#127282: Apr 25th 2021 at 9:53:02 PM

If there's one thing I can take solace in with the MCU, it's that I just can't see anything that's upcoming being anywhere near as bad as Inhumans. Not a snowball's chance in hell. They'd have to actively try to make something that comes close.

Self-serious autistic trans gal who loves rock/metal and animation with all her heart. (she/her)
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#127283: Apr 25th 2021 at 9:57:02 PM

For one thing Marvel would have to be Mr Krabs level of cheap.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#127284: Apr 25th 2021 at 10:02:02 PM

Chloe Zhao is definitely very talented, but I do worry that a lot of Eternals will have already been created by committee to the point that her individual voice and style of direction might end up smothered in the process. Examples include the final battle of Black Panther which was mostly already pre-storyboarded without that much input from Coogler.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#127285: Apr 25th 2021 at 10:03:26 PM

[up]×4

It was a tv show and not a movie.

And i'm not sure why you're using that as a comparison, it's not like Perlmutter is involved with Eternals.

Edited by Cortez on Apr 25th 2021 at 1:05:21 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#127286: Apr 25th 2021 at 10:04:33 PM

Examples include the final battle of Black Panther which was mostly already pre-storyboarded without that much input from Coogler.

Hm, that explains quite a bit, actually.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#127287: Apr 25th 2021 at 10:07:33 PM

Well that’s interesting to learn.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#127288: Apr 25th 2021 at 10:08:59 PM

It was originally announced as a movie, to come out between Infinity War and Endgame, and I was hyped for it as that. But the news surrounding it just got worse and worse over time until it came out as a tv show and the worst product in the MCU.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#127289: Apr 25th 2021 at 10:10:28 PM

Because of Perlmutter, who isn't involved with the films anymore. I don't see the issue.

Edited by Cortez on Apr 25th 2021 at 1:19:30 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#127290: Apr 25th 2021 at 11:27:40 PM

I'm looking forward to Eternals, as much as I can look forward to anything after the shambling disaster of the season finale of Falcon & The Winter Soldier (which has thrown the biggest bucket of cold water in my excitement for anything MCU-related since Iron Man 3).

Edited by Gaon on Apr 25th 2021 at 11:37:15 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#127291: Apr 25th 2021 at 11:45:59 PM

I have been kind of curious as to how Zhao's down-to-earth non-actor-focused filmography so far will square with the big budget A-list-filled space opera Eternals is supposed to be and "already created by committee and they just needed a big name to fill the gaps" is uhhh worst case scenario, so fingers crossed.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#127292: Apr 25th 2021 at 11:49:26 PM

I hope that Angelina Jolie is in it a lot because a friend of mine cares nothing about the MCU but is massively in love with Jolie and she keeps asking when the trailer will be. [lol]

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#127293: Apr 25th 2021 at 11:52:06 PM

I have some faith because The Eternals are a far lesser property so they presumably won't be breathing down people's necks as much. Marvel has shown more willingness to give leeway at times in certain occasions like with Waititi with Ragnarok (because Marvel was desperate for anyone to rehabilitate Thor so they gave him basically carte blanche) and Ryan Coogler with Black Panther (presumably due BP being traditionally a "lesser property").

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#127294: Apr 26th 2021 at 12:06:41 AM

Thing with the MCU is it's run more like a TV show than a traditional film franchise.

Films usually have the director as the chief creative force behind the project; the screenwriter, once they've sold their script, has no control over what's done with it. But in television, the project is overseen by the showrunner and the writers' room; directors are hired guns who, while they do bring their own style and creativity to the mix, are not at the top of the artist totem pole.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#127295: Apr 26th 2021 at 3:27:04 AM

Im surprised to see so much love for Klue on the previous page. I really liked Andy Serkis's performance, but I was certain that enough miniuet of that character would have outstayed his welcome. Killmonger killing him also made perfect sense.

However, big monster made of sound? Okay that's tempting. I'd love to see the avengers fight something that would give you a real head scratcher about how to even hurt.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#127297: Apr 26th 2021 at 6:40:29 AM

Between Klaue's mixtape and the Zemo Dance, I'm now thoroughly convinced that the next phase of the MCU needs to include a Musical.

... I thought I was joking but suddenly I wonder...

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#127298: Apr 26th 2021 at 6:41:44 AM

Dazzler the movie

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#127299: Apr 26th 2021 at 6:44:46 AM

Well, the first GoG film was not that far off the mark.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#127300: Apr 26th 2021 at 7:13:18 AM

Deadpool musical when?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server

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