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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It does also add up to Priest’s run.
He hated being king because of how much it tears his soul and would enjoy doing anything else like being a superhero.
It cements the tragedy of the character. He desperately does not want to be king but he does so anyway because of how much the responsibilities have been built into him since he was born and as much as he may not like it, he is good at it.
Edited by slimcoder on Apr 23rd 2021 at 6:26:58 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."There are subtle moments like that even in the early issues of Jungle Action. There's an issue where he beats up the Klan where he's staying with a family and is having a relatively simple meal, but he goes "No, this is great! I'd put this against fancy banquets any day." He's uninterested in power but takes it on so others can't abuse it.
It’s why he’s so protective of the position, because he fears what could happen if anyone else became king knowing how most of Wakanda acts.
Fears confirmed true when Shuri took over for a time and became an ultra-nationalist with a Wakanda-first mindset who responds to everything with naked threats and aggression.
Huh T’Challa preferring to be physicist by itself isn’t a bad idea but since it showed up in the Coates run which I heard is kind of a deconstruction run where all the heroes strengths are turned against them and they just get constantly shit on, I guess it was considered by some to just be another take-down on T’Challa.
Edited by slimcoder on Apr 23rd 2021 at 6:48:12 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Speaking of T'Challa:
Does anyone follow The Real Daytime? Because they brought up a petition to recast him.
What do we think? They bring up the valid points about how T'Challa's story was just starting, having to bring back Killmonger from the dead and how it's too soon to have Shuri in the mantle.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 23rd 2021 at 1:00:16 AM
I've maintained that not-recasting and instead letting T'Challa's character die offscreen is ultimately more insulting to Boseman's memory and what he was endeavoring to accomplish by playing T'Challa in the first place than recasting is, so I'm all for it.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 23rd 2021 at 1:04:59 AM
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This is where I'm at as well (with the caveat that recasting debates right after his death felt a little too kneejerk fanboy). I'm still not sure if I want a recast, I understand why people want one, but I also don't think we should be demanding it from the cast and crew if they don't want to.
Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 23rd 2021 at 3:10:00 AM
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At first I wasn't really sure myself, but that was more because I didn't want to be seen as some insensitive jerk. But at the end of the day, killing T'Challa just as he was starting to make himself known just sounds wrong. He was Thanos'd in IW, came back in Endgame, only to die to something else? It's hard to describe the feeling, but it's a negative feeling to be sure.
Ideally, I'd have a recast, but with the understanding that it's to honor what Boseman started. Like a passing of the torch.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 23rd 2021 at 1:15:55 AM
I'm on the "let the people who worked with Chadwick decide", but personally I much more favour the idea of passing on the Black Panther mantle to another character rather than recasting T'challa. A part of me feels like just recasting T'challa and keeping business as usual is literally showing Chadwick as replacable. Just accepting Chadwick's death as that of the character adds reflects internally the sense of irreplaceable loss that exists externally.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I understand the whole "the actor is irreplaceable" from a Hollywood point of view, in that it theoretically respects the actor's career, but from a racial point of view doing discard and draw whenever a black character - especially one that was starting to have a lot of influence and relatability towards the black audience - faces behind the scenes issues, just reinforces the idea that the images black people create are replaceable.
As a result, it ultimately comes off as a Hollywood political move than an actually progressive one. And the reason I believe it ultimately doesn't respect Boseman's career all that much is because he dedicated his life to ensuring that black figures were adequately represented in film. He wouldn't want a figure or character he played to be put on the cutting room floor just because he's not physically there to play them.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 23rd 2021 at 1:28:47 AM
While I respected Marvel's decision to not recast, I personally feel it was wrong to cut the character down so early in his story, especially given how much he now means to so many people.
I actually recall someone pointing out somewhere how if Dumbledore was allowed to continue to exist as a character despite his first actor's death, then shouldn't T'Challa be afforded the same opportunity?
I personally don't see a recast as replacing Chadwick Boseman, but more as a way to help continue his legacy in allowing T'Challa to flourish and inspire people further.
Otherwise, I'd feel like going the Batwoman route and replacing the main character with an OC rather than recast would be a mistake, as would continuing the Black Panther series without, you know, an actual Black Panther in it.
Edited by lbssb on Apr 23rd 2021 at 1:31:09 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonThe character T’Challa had a lot of history. You can’t just replace him with another character like that.
It’s kinda like what the current Batman comics are doing with new Batman Jace Fox, where it’s kinda hard to accept now because he’s too much of a newbie character to replace Bruce.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."This. Just this.
And even then, Batwoman ended up recasting Kate Kane during the second season anyway.
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 29th 2021 at 2:27:30 AM
Wait, they did? I didn't know that. Holy shit, then Ryan Wilder was even more pointless than we thought!
Edited by lbssb on Apr 23rd 2021 at 1:33:26 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonFrom a purely storytelling point of view, I'd be interested in seeing Shuri take up the mantle and the crown, as it would offer some very good opportunities of character development and also give us another female lead in the MCU (which is sorely lacking in that department). Otherwise, being white, I don't think I can or even should really comment on this issue as it reaches far beyond storybuilding concerns.
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.I feel that ultimately marvel is going to try to thread the needle by recasting after some time has passed
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Edited by Mario1995 on Apr 23rd 2021 at 4:36:02 AM
"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam GallagherYup. The show got Wallis Day as Kate in season 2, episode 8 or 9.
After accidentally seeing some pics from TF&TWS' last episode, I'll just respond with a
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Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 23rd 2021 at 1:42:11 AM

Also like I said it has precedent in older comics
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