Marvel Cinematic Universe

Good God, they got a real super soldier and the first thing they have him do is sing show tunes.

Show Tunes!!!

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 22nd 2021 at 4:58:44 AM

It was the 40s. Today they’d make him do the talk show circuit and PS As.

They’d announce his return on Fortnite.

Somehow Palpatine Steve Rodgers has returned

x4 Well, at least that can be attributed to narrow-minded Army brass deciding that a single Super-Soldier would be better suited for propaganda purposes than a battlefield. Which ignores the fact that Cap could be (and indeed later became) a formidable commando, but again, narrow-minded Army brass.

I dunno, making a big show out of "Captain America" and rallying the people around him seemed to help the cause.

Edit: Removing the video.

Wait does Wakanda actually sell Vibranium?

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 22nd 2021 at 9:10:29 AM

Wait does Wakanda actually sell Vibranium?

I...don't think so?

They have a Merchant Tribe, though presumably all the selling is done within Wakanda itself.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 22nd 2021 at 8:28:36 AM

They do not. It's a huge thing. The only vibranium the outside world saw is what Klaue stole.

Now, I can't watch the video, but even discounting the monarchy, the isolationism alone should heavily hamstring their economy. I guess you can handwave it as "their technology is so advanced that they don't need trade," but that feels weak.

But now that I think about it, they do have some trade. They're considered the poorest nation in the world, but they're not a failed state. The headscratchers page for the film theorizes that they use their vibranium technology to produce massive amounts of textiles in a snap, pretend it was difficult, and make a reasonable profit that way.

There's also the question of cultural imports. Shuri knows outsider memes, so does that mean that Wakanda imports the outside world's internet?

Edited by Discar on Apr 22nd 2021 at 8:28:38 AM

The headscratcher I've people say is Vibranium is their number one resource and it is specifically the single thing responsible for making the country among the richest in the world.

But they don't sell it, so how does that work? To use an analogy, it's like owning a diamond mine but not selling any diamonds.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 22nd 2021 at 8:32:44 AM

The Border Tribe has horses, which appear to be Basuto ponies. They’re descended from Cape Horses brought to South Africa in 1653 and are commonly used by the Sotho people. Wakanda most likely traded for them.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 22nd 2021 at 8:35:52 AM

Vibranium technology makes them the richest in the world. Vibranium's rarity is by far its least valuable property.

Vibranium technology isnt worth anything for Wakanda's trade economy if Wakanda doesnt trade in vibranium technology.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Apr 22nd 2021 at 11:44:43 AM

They don't even have a Starbucks.

Vibranium technology making better products. The value of a factory is not in selling its machines, it's in selling what the machines produce.

"Yes, our poor impoverished country managed to produce this mere billion dollars worth of textiles, definitely using every laborer in our country and not one small factory."

I know the conversation has already been started, but I'd prefer not to give that video any more views considering it was made by a bunch of Gina Carano apologists who publish articles like "These Parents and Teachers Have Had Enough of Woke Classrooms and Critical Race Theory" or takes like "the reason police brutality exists is because enforcing laws is inherently violent, so we should just have less laws and government to begin with."

Edited by Aleistar on Apr 22nd 2021 at 12:09:12 PM

Gross.

As presented, I can believe that Wakanda is basically self-sufficient. To the point that I'm not sure what they need to trade for. It cant be much since they present(ed) themselves as barely managing an economy.

From the available evidence they trade mainly for memes

Ehhhhhhhhh, did not know that my apologies.

No problem, I just happened to have looked into that channel for other reasons.

It is a bit of a paradox how Wakanda can somehow seem poor enough convince the rest of the world that they are, yet actually be rich enough to eclipse the world, without actually trading with anyone and thus maintaining that poor facade.

However, it's worth noting that it's hardly the first time a fantasy kingdom has ignored how economy and international trade works, and it won't be the last.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 22nd 2021 at 11:15:31 AM

A Wizard Did It, but replace "A Wizard" with "Vibranium".

Edited by M84 on Apr 23rd 2021 at 2:13:05 AM

Wakanda might as well be an elven kingdom. That's not a bad thing, it's just heavily set in fiction.

That said, I could've bought it if Vibranium made it such that nobody in Wakanda a) needs foreign commodities or b) needs an excessive amount of money to do things within Wakanda itself. I could absolutely buy that most things that cost a lot of money in the real world don't in Wakanda because Vibranum technobabble makes it easy to do. It's already clear that the nation's rural and agrarian population basically lives that way by choice.

The sticking point is T'Challa being able to roll up to a random street in Oakland and start buying buildings.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 22nd 2021 at 11:16:44 AM