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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#126951: Apr 21st 2021 at 3:04:28 AM

Still, you'd think Galactus would know better.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126952: Apr 21st 2021 at 3:09:10 AM

Well he needed all the help he can get and a Ghost Rider empowered by the Power Cosmic is some decent backup.

Keep in mind Galactus was brandishing guns and charging Thanos on foot, thats how driven he was.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#126953: Apr 21st 2021 at 3:19:35 AM

What are the main universal threats in Marvel apart from Thanos/the Infinity Gauntlet and Galactus (honest question, I'm not a comic buff)? I think there was the Annihilation wave too, but are there any tied to the Celestials? That last one may be the most likely if the Eternals are going to play an important role.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126954: Apr 21st 2021 at 3:31:12 AM

There is also the constant wars brought on by the big 3 empires, the Skrulls, Kree, and Shi'ar.

Though the latter is more commonly dealt by the X-Men.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 21st 2021 at 3:31:26 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#126955: Apr 21st 2021 at 3:36:31 AM

[up] Come to think of it, there is some evidence this one may play a larger role in the future of the MUC, since it has been hinted at in Captain Marvel, Far from home and the stinger from Wandavision. They would need to add the Shi'ar (would be funny to have them appear before the X-Men).

Edited by C105 on Apr 21st 2021 at 12:37:14 PM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#126956: Apr 21st 2021 at 12:10:20 PM

Galactus also befriended Squirrel Girl iirc. They shared a good laugh about how Thanos is a tool.

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#126957: Apr 21st 2021 at 1:32:43 PM

I apologize if this has already been pointed out, but has anyone else noticed that Old Steve Rogers looks and sounds a lot like Joe Biden?

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#126958: Apr 21st 2021 at 1:35:02 PM

He looks more like Clint Eastwood and I’ve never been able to unsee that even after learning it really is just Chris Evans in makeup.

The legend has returned.
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#126959: Apr 21st 2021 at 1:39:53 PM

I knew there was more to that Sony/Netflix deal.

After the Netflix first-run windows for solo MCU Spider-Man movies expire, the movies will be heading to Disney Plus/Hulu and all other Disney networks. This includes all Sony movies from 2022-2026 (which, I assume, is how long the Netflix deal will also run).

Woof.

Edited by Mario1995 on Apr 21st 2021 at 4:44:47 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#126961: Apr 21st 2021 at 1:52:36 PM

Oh thank God I'm not the only one who thought he looked like him.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#126962: Apr 21st 2021 at 1:56:24 PM

I had seen people remarking on this similarity on Instagram a couple of months ago. Since it was still close to the election, it quickly devolved into an ugly discussion.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#126963: Apr 21st 2021 at 2:31:53 PM

I knew there was more to that Sony/Netflix deal.

After the Netflix first-run windows for solo MCU Spider-Man movies expire, the movies will be heading to Disney Plus/Hulu and all other Disney networks. This includes all Sony movies from 2022-2026 (which, I assume, is how long the Netflix deal will also run).

Woof.

Whelp. I had a feeling the MCU Spider-Man movies would show up on Disney+ eventually. (And I guess Into the Spider-Verse and its sequel?)

What I *didn't* expect is that this evidently applies for the other Sony movies like Jumanji and Hotel Transylvania. (The latter's actually funny, because that had a 2D animated show on Disney Channel, so it sounds hilarious in retrospect.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 21st 2021 at 2:44:00 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#126964: Apr 21st 2021 at 2:33:50 PM

What does the Sony movies going to Disney plus mean for the future of Spider-Man? I feel like I should know, but I am just not connecting the pieces.

Edited by Bullman on Apr 21st 2021 at 4:37:40 AM

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ematt3 Since: Jun, 2020
#126965: Apr 21st 2021 at 2:39:45 PM

It means their relationship is less strained than we all thought it was also NWH rumors might be true.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#126966: Apr 21st 2021 at 2:48:40 PM

[up] Money talks, I guess. (And also global crises maybe?) All we need now is for Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio to appear as Daredevil and Kingpin at some point (maybe not in NWH but later) and some way to figure out where Tom Hardy's Venom fits into all this and we'll have the most extensive cinematic take on Spider-Man bar none.

Incidentally, one peek at Twitter and apparently folks are already starting to bet that this has made the third season of Spectacular Spider-Man more feasible than ever, but I still doubt it.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 21st 2021 at 2:50:52 AM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#126967: Apr 21st 2021 at 2:54:33 PM

This could mean a lot of things going forward.

... I just hope that doesn't mean Disney being forced to make Venom and Morbius canon to the MCU in order to stay on Sony's good side.

Actually, wait, does this mean stuff like Ghostbusters and Men in Black on Disney+? That's weird to think about.

Edited by lbssb on Apr 21st 2021 at 2:58:19 AM

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#126968: Apr 21st 2021 at 3:15:49 PM

[up][up] I could see Marvel Studios them spinning Morbius into a Legion of Monsters adaptation, depending on how it goes and how reasonable Sony is willing to be with canon.

The big problem beforehand with that being incorporated was Sony going "oh yeah! All of this is canon to the MCU!" without actually considering whether it all actually fit - leading to that Sad Kevin Feige pic that was memetic a few years back.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#126970: Apr 21st 2021 at 3:39:58 PM

It means Sony and Disney will be good buddies for a while...

Just Makima.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#126971: Apr 21st 2021 at 3:48:18 PM

I thought that Old!Cap in the comics looked like a Comic-Book Fantasy Casting of Clint Eastwood, but I agree that the Old!Cap of the movies looks more like Biden.

I wonder if the Sony/Marvel deal makes it more likely that Emilia Clarke is Jessica Drew. I'd rather see that than her as Veranke.

Edit - Although I suppose she could be playing both given the plot of the comics Secret Invasion. Kind of would be in her wheelhouse to be both a quirky, kind of bumbling character and a world conquering queen.

Edited by Hodor2 on Apr 21st 2021 at 5:55:27 AM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#126972: Apr 21st 2021 at 4:52:51 PM

Spectacular season 3 seems highly unlikely.

We've had like two other separate shows at this point since then.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126973: Apr 21st 2021 at 4:54:11 PM

Which amusingly enough weren't even that well-treated anyway.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#126974: Apr 21st 2021 at 5:10:40 PM

Well, Ultimate Spider-Man ran for five years and 104 episodes, so it's actually one of the longest running Marvel cartoons (only surpassed by Avengers Assemble's 126 episode run). So, that depends on your definition of "well-treated".

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#126975: Apr 21st 2021 at 5:13:26 PM

I actually like Ultimate Spider-Man, but I am surprised it ran for as long as it did.

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