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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#126626: Apr 10th 2021 at 9:53:21 AM

Yeah,an alien shapeshifting space dragon is the kind of goofy character that would turn up in a Guardians movie

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#126627: Apr 10th 2021 at 11:28:25 AM

I like the armband take on the rings.

I'm not finding anything that backs this up right now (and obviously it's not an East Asian mythology), but somehow I had the sense that Draupnir, which is one of the big mythology magic rings was actually an armband.

I am wondering about the magic or at least space magic component of the movie. I'm spoilering this just in case (although I believe previously discussed), but one of the leaked toys is a sapient dragon. And another toy is this creature referred to as Morris, which is a cute, eyeless blob that looks kind of like a flumph, but evidently is a creature from Chinese mythology. Unfortunately, I cannot find the name of it right now.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#126628: Apr 10th 2021 at 11:56:01 AM

I’m a little skeptical on the dragon, because it came from a LEGO set, and for a while now LEGO has been inventing largely original things for the pre-release tie in sets to have to avoid spoilers.

Remember the tentacle monster from the official Dr. Strange set that everyone thought meant Shuma was going to be in the movie, but instead just turned out to be something random that wasn’t in the film?

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 10th 2021 at 11:56:20 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#126629: Apr 10th 2021 at 11:57:47 AM

There was also a dragon Funko Pop.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#126630: Apr 10th 2021 at 11:58:27 AM

Fair point. I thought it was shown as an actual figure as well but I’m not positive. I saw it on Marvel Studios Spoilers Reddit. [nja]

Edited by Hodor2 on Apr 10th 2021 at 1:58:41 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#126631: Apr 10th 2021 at 12:02:52 PM

If we do get Fin Fang Foom one day, he needs to put somebody in his pants.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Apr 10th 2021 at 3:03:11 PM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#126632: Apr 10th 2021 at 12:09:02 PM

If nothing else they could have gone wilder with the arm rings on Mandarin.

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#126633: Apr 10th 2021 at 12:13:45 PM

I just want to see more toys of my boi Morris!

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#126634: Apr 10th 2021 at 1:06:44 PM

> If we do get Fin Fang Foom one day, he needs to put somebody in his pants.

lol wut?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#126635: Apr 10th 2021 at 1:07:07 PM

Nextwave reference

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#126636: Apr 10th 2021 at 1:37:43 PM

[up] Are Nextwave references even allowed anymore? Because the guy who came up with it got Me Too'd not long ago...

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126637: Apr 10th 2021 at 1:42:54 PM

Don't ruin the joke.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#126638: Apr 10th 2021 at 2:08:59 PM

[up][up] If we follow this line of thoughts, there are a lot of works that should not be referenced any more...

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#126639: Apr 10th 2021 at 3:32:20 PM

I will say that despite Ellis thoroughly deserving to be called on his shit and face consequences for it... I still absolutely love Nextwave.

That should not be taken as praise of its creator as a person nor condoning of his actions.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#126640: Apr 10th 2021 at 5:06:41 PM

[up]

It's sad that you even have to clarify that, but that's what happens when something you enjoy is made by someone who's done something really really shitty.

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#126641: Apr 11th 2021 at 12:02:07 AM

Indeed. It's a tough question sometimes when an artist you like turns out to be a complete ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️ but I think it is legitimately possible to separate artist from their work in some cases.

The line is more blurred when there are some questionable politics or other views that seem to be shared between characters and artist alike (such as full meltdown mode Frank Miller just as an example.)

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
ClancyGardener life is a state of mind from 53 miles west of Venus Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#126642: Apr 11th 2021 at 12:47:23 PM

Another good example: I love John Byrne's art, but the man himself is... ugh.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#126643: Apr 11th 2021 at 1:41:59 PM

I too am on the side of distinguishing the author from their work, as long as the faults of the author don't blatantly propagate to the work of course.

Also, I have begun reading Nextwave and find it bloody hilarious.

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#126644: Apr 11th 2021 at 2:36:56 PM

Someone found this poster for What If. Could totally just be fanart, but if it isn't... someone in Marvel forgot they now have the rights to Exiles, I guess?

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Apr 11th 2021 at 2:37:09 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#126645: Apr 11th 2021 at 2:43:22 PM

They may have just decided Guardians of the Multiverse looks better on a poster than Exiles.

Kind of like how the Netflix Defenders were Defenders and not the Marvel Knights or whatever.

We also don't know what the show is going to be like. If they get together all of one time or hell if they don't get together at all, its going to look pretty silly calling them Exiles which is a whole thing.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126646: Apr 11th 2021 at 3:07:24 PM

Didn't What-If start development before the rights returned to them?

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 11th 2021 at 5:11:58 AM

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#126647: Apr 11th 2021 at 4:58:27 PM

[up]x3: I doubt it's fanart since Anne found it at an FYE store, and you can see some aspects of the store behind the poster like a racket of comics. The series is apparently slated for a mid-2021 release, so having some early promotional material around makes it more likely.

[up]It's possible? The Disney-Fox merger finalized on March 20, 2019, and What If...? was formally announced on April 11, 2019. But hey, though unrelated to the MCU, Marvel's M.O.D.O.K is allowed to use and reference X-Men content, and that series was formally announced in February 2019.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#126648: Apr 11th 2021 at 5:10:42 PM

The tv shows have never been unable to reference X-Men or Fantastic Four or anything like that. They just chose not to until recently, as part of Marvel downplaying the properties they didn't have film rights too.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 11th 2021 at 5:11:15 AM

Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#126649: Apr 11th 2021 at 7:18:14 PM

Man, I'm really ready for more of these out-there properties to be made into shows and movies. I feel like we've been speculating based on names and vague synapsis' for years now.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126650: Apr 11th 2021 at 7:28:31 PM

Anyone else feel they'll make Storm an MC for the X-Men movie?

Most high-profile black female superhero that was absolutely shafted in the original films, real easy opportunity there to set some things right.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 11th 2021 at 7:28:46 AM

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