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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#126576: Apr 6th 2021 at 6:08:24 PM

[up][up]Him being Shang-Chi's father is a pretty obvious option for replacing the whole Fu Manchu thing. Though wasn't his father eventually renamed in the comics as well?

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#126577: Apr 6th 2021 at 6:14:52 PM

[up] I know that, which is why it's such a common theory. My question is if there's something beyond circumstantial evidence (even if it's compelling circumstantial evidence) pointing towards that conclusion.

More then once I've seen fandoms or segments of fandoms get blindsided when a, potentially quite reasonable, theory got repeated so often it was widely assumed to be canon but then turned out not to be canon after all.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#126578: Apr 6th 2021 at 6:20:50 PM

Oh, concrete evidence? Yeah, there really isn't any, it's just the obvious solution to the problem. Marvel hasn't given us any clues one way or the other.

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#126579: Apr 8th 2021 at 11:26:59 AM

All solo Spider-Man MCU movies post-No Way Home will be on Netflix post-theatrical under a new first look pact that will end Sony's Starz deal after this year.

Obviously there are fans wondering about what this means for Disney/Marvel potentially retconning Spider-Man out of MCU but a) Disney/Marvel probably knew this was coming, and b) they won't give a shit because Disney/Marvel doesn't "own" the copyrights to solo Spider-Man MCU movies anyway and make money more off merchandise and games. As long as these movies get a theatrical release Disney/Marvel won't care.

Kevin Feige isn't Ike Perlmutter.

Edited by Mario1995 on Apr 11th 2021 at 6:10:35 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#126580: Apr 8th 2021 at 11:27:51 AM

As someone who is currently signed up to Netflix,hell yes!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#126581: Apr 8th 2021 at 11:33:29 AM

I'm not a sub to Shitflix but it's a much needed cash infusion to Sony, who still hasn't charted out a strategy beyond milking Spider-Man for all its worth and reviving 90s franchises long past their prime.

Also, this article's worth reading for those who think MCU Spider-Man is doomed.

Edited by Mario1995 on Apr 8th 2021 at 2:45:19 PM

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#126582: Apr 8th 2021 at 11:45:11 AM

Spider-Man movies have zero impact on the MCU metaplot anyway. For that matter, is Spider-Man who would be affected if at some point they cut ties with Disney (which let's be honest, they will).

The Home series worldbuilding is dependent of what's happening in the rest of the MCU. Not even actual MCU movies use a lot of elements from others. It's gonna be weird when they do cut ties and the entire worldbuilding done so far will be Exiled from Continuity.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#126583: Apr 8th 2021 at 11:52:16 AM

[up]Yeah, Marvel's learning they don't need Spider-Man all the time for the MCU to work. Especially since X-Men and Fantastic Four are now in the pipeline and Kev wants to get those greenlit ASAP.

The last thing Marvel wants to do is to make WB/DC's mistakes and center everything on only the heroes people know or care about.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#126584: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:09:49 PM

I mean if you look at when Homecoming came out I think it’s more marvel learned before then that they didn’t need spider man to make all the money

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126585: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:13:43 PM

At least it will further lessen the chance of us having to deal with another Stark legacy plotline again.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 8th 2021 at 12:13:53 PM

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Disasturbator
#126586: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:18:59 PM

I can't wait till the Cloning Saga begins

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#126587: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:26:46 PM

I think the concern is that if/when Spidey's movie rights go back to Sony Marvel will do to him what they did to Fantastic Four and X-Men and act like he doesn't exist/create a shitty Expy of him in the comics universe, something I highly doubt since Perlmutter has no real power in Marvel left.

Edited by Mario1995 on Apr 8th 2021 at 3:27:01 PM

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#126588: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:27:22 PM

That’s why they’re setting up Kamala obviously

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126589: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:39:23 PM

On that note she really needs better comic stories.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#126590: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:41:48 PM

She fought a bird-Edison! What more do you want!

Although if you’re saying the recent run lacked luster then yeah

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126591: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:45:42 PM

Yeah from what I hear her current run has been rather middling for the most part and even the last one lost some of its spark around the end.

She needs the good hard-hitting stuff, the type of stuff where storyline’s get their own pages like Kraven’s Last Hunt.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 8th 2021 at 12:46:10 PM

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Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#126592: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:54:52 PM

I am a bit confused. So how does Spiderman movies being on Netflix post theatrical at all mean that they will break away completely. I feel like I am missing something here. But even if they do that post No Way home. Holland as Spiderman still has to appear in one more MCU film.

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#126593: Apr 8th 2021 at 12:56:18 PM

I don't know if it was disccussed here before or it was a weird dream I had, but it was about no way home would be a clone saga movie, and it would end with Ben Riley being the MCU Spiderman and Peter Parker the Sony Spiderman.

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#126594: Apr 8th 2021 at 1:00:19 PM

Again after no way home. Tom's contract is for one more MCU project. Which I kind of assumed would be a Young Avengers thing. Though it could be Doctor Strange 2. Which still wouldn't make sense to me personally.

Edited by Bullman on Apr 8th 2021 at 3:04:36 AM

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#126595: Apr 8th 2021 at 1:04:01 PM

wild mass guessWhat if it's the one where Peter dies and Miles Morales becomes the new Spider-Man...wild mass guess

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 8th 2021 at 1:04:22 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#126596: Apr 8th 2021 at 1:04:35 PM

Sony has the rights to Miles

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#126597: Apr 8th 2021 at 1:04:55 PM

[up][up]Good luck getting Sony to sign off on that.

Edited by Beatman1 on Apr 8th 2021 at 4:05:08 AM

Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#126598: Apr 8th 2021 at 1:07:08 PM

What do you guys think that last MCU project will be for Tom? If you take the Netflix thing as them just cutting the deal entirely. Though I am still unsure how those two things connect.

Edited by Bullman on Apr 8th 2021 at 3:07:33 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126599: Apr 8th 2021 at 1:16:08 PM

Ya know with King in Black done, I'd be excited for the possibility of the Knull storyline being adapted but with Venom as it actually is, I'm not sure if I trust Sony with that.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#126600: Apr 8th 2021 at 4:30:49 PM

Angelica! (Work, work!) Eliza! And Peggy! (Work, work!) The Schuyler sisters!!

Wait, no. Just Angelica of the Schuyler Sisters, or more accurately, her actress Renée Elise Goldsberry, is joining She-Hulk as....someone!

EDIT: Happy 126,600th post, y'all!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Apr 8th 2021 at 4:32:23 AM


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