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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#126401: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:03:30 AM

Hercules?

I'm not even joking, I saw his picture and immediately thought "Hercules?"

Ehhhhh, I don't know. He might be too old for it. I would imagine they'd want a new face for MCU!Hercules.

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#126402: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:03:58 AM

Maybe Zeus?

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#126403: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:04:34 AM

I’m thinking he’s going to be an actor in the recap play since they announced him as a cameo.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#126404: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:09:34 AM

[up][up] Great, now I want to see that happen. Does Marvel have a Zeus in the comics?

[up] Yeah, hence why I joked about him being Actor Grandmaster. Or maybe he's Actor Skurge?

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#126405: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:10:53 AM

Yep, the Greek Pantheon is around, and the most famous demigod has had his own series.

Wake me up at your own risk.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126406: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:10:54 AM

Yes they do, the Olympians are apart of Hercules's supporting cast. [nja]

Though they are now evil space pirates after being killed ofd by Nyx.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 29th 2021 at 11:11:25 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#126407: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:17:38 AM

It'd be interesting to see how they go with the magical myth stuff after the "it's actually tech" thing that chased Thor around.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#126408: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:51:40 AM

[up]x2 Although the Guardians did beat them in the latest issue with no casualties. Turns out Star-Lord + Moondragon is OP.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#126409: Mar 29th 2021 at 11:52:45 AM

About Russell Crowe: this is definitely going to be Actor Fat Thor.

The legend has returned.
Bullman Enid Sinclair Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Enid Sinclair
#126410: Mar 29th 2021 at 12:02:02 PM

On the one hand, I am normally not that big fan Russell Crow. However on the other, this could lead to a sort of 3:10 to Yuma (2007) reunion, and I love that movie. So I a torn a bit.

Edited by Bullman on Mar 29th 2021 at 2:02:48 PM

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#126411: Mar 29th 2021 at 12:57:37 PM

Was it not Zeus who gave the Hulk a spectacular thrashing some time after World War Hulk?

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#126412: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:06:29 PM

Yup. It was so bad that his Healing Factor almost broke and only just barely kept him alive afterwards.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#126413: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:37:00 PM

So all along instead of waiting for Sentry to get off his ass, they should have just gotten Hercules to get his dad?

Damn the Illuminati suck at what they do

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#126414: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:38:19 PM

Well, Marvel Zeus (just like Zeus in.....well, more or less any piece of fiction, outside of Disney perhaps) is a major dick, so that would've most probably been a fool's errand.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#126415: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:43:28 PM

If I know mythology, its not hard to get Zeus to kick someone's ass.

All Hercules would need to do is spread a rumor that Hulk was going to pile some mountains on top of mountains to be taller than Zeus is.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#126416: Mar 29th 2021 at 1:55:21 PM

Well he's a Skyfather so that's a bit like asking Odin to beat up Hulk.

Yes, he could do it but there's nothing you can get to do it and then you run into, "so how do we get rid of Zeus?"

As a Marvel citizen, I'd argue that you'd normally want the Hulk to try to deal with someone like ZEUS not the reverse too.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#126417: Mar 29th 2021 at 2:00:54 PM

All you need to do to get rid of Marvel Zeus is tell him he’s missing a wild party back on Olympus

Compared to the Asgardians, the Olympians really just want to sit at home and party

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#126418: Mar 29th 2021 at 2:29:48 PM

"so how do we get rid of Zeus?"

Find Jane Foster and give her super powers.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126419: Mar 29th 2021 at 2:36:32 PM

So just bring in Thor then.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#126420: Mar 29th 2021 at 4:36:11 PM

Hercules?

I'm not even joking, I saw his picture and immediately thought "Hercules?"

I think it's another Thor character, like Beta Ray Bill.

Edited by Cortez on Mar 29th 2021 at 7:37:46 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#126421: Mar 29th 2021 at 4:43:41 PM

Disney apparently still wants to remake the 90s Hercules movie. I kind of want it to start as a remake, only to reveal at the end that it's the MCU's version of the Prince of Power.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#126422: Mar 29th 2021 at 4:57:30 PM

"And lo, Thor, that is how I defeated the evil Hades and got many a merchandising deals"
"That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about Olympian history to dispute it"

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eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#126423: Mar 29th 2021 at 5:00:03 PM

Better yet, have it end with the reveal of MCU Herc with Amadeus on the seat of a theater laughing of how it got his story so wrong.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#126424: Mar 29th 2021 at 5:04:39 PM

I want them to do an MCU Herc before they do a Disney Herc, but only because of my long term evil plan / dream that they buy the rights to the other two Hercules and make references to them with one single Herc.

''A hero of song and story'.

With strength matched only by the power of his heart.

So hot, he makes steam look cool.

It's perfect. Make my evil plan come true Disney! DO IT!!!!

One Strip! One Strip!
KRider Desire Grand Prix Entry from Origin System Since: Feb, 2021
Desire Grand Prix Entry
#126425: Mar 29th 2021 at 8:43:03 PM

Kinda late to the topic on Asian superheroes in Marvel. Another issue is that most of the Asian superheroes they have also tend to be X-Men so they got locked out of the MCU until now.

Set! Avenge! "Henshin." Black General! Bujin Sword! Ready, Fight!

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