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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#126301: Mar 25th 2021 at 1:22:25 PM

Kamala’s superhero outfit is based on a real garment so it’s a fairly easy adaptation

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#126302: Mar 25th 2021 at 1:43:45 PM

Her first outfit was made out of a burkini (a swimsuit based on the burqa). Which is quite funny, since Carol's Ms Marvel costume was sometimes compared to a bathing suit. Would be neat if they keep that detail. I wonder if she'll get a proper super-suit, or if she'll just be stuck with that one.

Edited by HalfFaust on Mar 25th 2021 at 8:46:27 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#126303: Mar 25th 2021 at 2:10:07 PM

Her burkini suit was still a super suit because her friend with tension Bruno used his super snot project on it which let it stretch and contract with Kamala

There was some biz about not getting it wet but it has never come up, even when she’s gotten it wet

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#126304: Mar 25th 2021 at 2:28:51 PM

that entire sentence involving super snot,ew ew ew

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#126306: Mar 25th 2021 at 2:49:08 PM

There was some biz about not getting it wet but it has never come up, even when she’s gotten it wet

"Kamala's super suit has gotten all wet. It's completely useless now".

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#126307: Mar 26th 2021 at 6:51:35 AM

Oh yeah I forgot about that bit. I wonder if that'll just be left out for the show since it never seemed to come up in the comics.

Also absolutely love the concept art for Kamala's suit. Gosh, I can't wait for her show.

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#126308: Mar 26th 2021 at 8:57:46 AM

The biggest question about Kamala is how she gains her powers,because she originally gained her powers from the Terrigen gas activating her Inhuman genes (according to the summaries I've read) so reworking will be necessary

Edited by Ultimatum on Mar 26th 2021 at 3:58:11 PM

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#126309: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:07:40 AM

I honestly doubt they'll change that. We even know from the cast list that another nuhuman (Kamran) will be on the show.

I think Kamala will have a comics accurate backstory, except they'll change what she was sneaking out to because I doubt we'll see underage drinking.

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#126310: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:09:58 AM

I think there was a point later in the first issue where she goes to the local corner store whose cashier she's friends with (can't recall the names of either, sorry) and there are robbers there? So adapting that as her empowering event is a possibility.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#126311: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:23:41 AM

The point is that so far the only appearance of the Inhumans and terrigenesis were in Agents of Shield and the Inhumans series, none of which are officially canon in the MCU (not matter how much I'd like AoS to be, if only partially). So they will need either to establish very quickly that the Inhumans exist in the MCU, make either series canon, or find another explanation entirely for Kamala's powers.

They could also go the Spiderman route and just have her pop up with those powers without explanation, but that would be cheating.

Guess the easiest would be to retcon her into a mutant if they don't want to spend too much time introducing the Inhumans. Or find another completely different explanation for her powers (could she gain them from Carol Danvers, in the same way Carol gained them from Mar-Vell in the comics?).

Edited by C105 on Mar 26th 2021 at 5:24:36 PM

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#126312: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:27:18 AM

Blip-created Mutant.

Although how ironic would that be, the most prominent Inhuman and what was supposed to be the start of Marvel away from the mutants towards the Inhumans, being made a mutant?

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#126313: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:34:33 AM

I think mutants and Inhumans would be equally difficult to introduce as a concept really

There was a lot of discussion during Wandavision on whether mutants should have been around All Along or created by the Blip or by Wanda so I don’t see the point that it would be simpler to make her a mutant

Anyway if you make her an Inhuman you can still use that terrigen cloud to explain her powers AND explain where other Inhuman characters/enemies are coming from AND give her an arc about investigating where her powers came from

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#126314: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:35:37 AM

Kamala won't be made a mutant, that'd be weird. I can't see a world in which the concept of mutants doesn't debut in the X-Men movie coming out.

Most likely, they'll do the terrigen mist stuff, and just gloss over the Inhuman Royal family because that's not important to this story.

And Kamala suddenly gaining her powers instead of getting them because of her own actions would miss the point by a longshot.

Edited by Joshbones on Mar 26th 2021 at 9:38:22 AM

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#126315: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:41:35 AM

where she goes to the local corner store whose cashier she's friends with (can't recall the names of either, sorry)

Circle Q and Bruno.

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#126316: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:52:18 AM

Q is more of a circle than a K.

Victory to Jersey.

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#126317: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:52:48 AM

I honestly think that Kamala won't be an Inhuman not because of canonicity issues with AOS, but rather because the entire Inhumans brand has become toxic, between the awful show and the universally-despised shilling they got in the 2010s.

Adding to that, hasn't it been confirmed that Feige has never been particularly fond of the Inhumans and cancelled their movie after he no longer had to answer to Perlmutter because he knew he had no passion for the property?

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#126318: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:55:50 AM

IIRC he canceled it for two reasons, there was no real way to integrate them into the overall story at that time (IW and EG were already overstuffed as is...) and they couldn't find the right team of creatives to do them justice. As we saw with the eventual Inhumans show its not a show or a concept that can be done slapdash.

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#126319: Mar 26th 2021 at 9:56:47 AM

But those were the Royal Family.

The Royal Family doesn't have a lot of fans. Except Lockjaw almost unanimously and Crystal, sometimes.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#126320: Mar 26th 2021 at 10:04:08 AM

[up]I wouldn’t mind them trying to save Lockjaw admittedly.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#126321: Mar 26th 2021 at 10:05:19 AM

Maybe they could use the Eternals instead, and give Kamala a distant Eternal ancestry. After all, the Eternals and Inhumans have kinda the same kind of origin (being created in the distant past by very advanced aliens), so maybe they will tweak the Eternals a bit so that they can fulfil the role of the Inhumans if needed.

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#126322: Mar 26th 2021 at 10:06:09 AM

Lockjaw was a supporting character in Kamala’s early arcs!

He disappeared without explanation or fanfare though

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#126323: Mar 26th 2021 at 10:14:47 AM

To be fair Lockjaw’s power is disappearing. tongue

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#126324: Mar 26th 2021 at 10:19:54 AM

The sizzle reel has what looks like an allusion to Maximus the Mad ("Cool Guy" looks like him) so I'm pretty sure she's still gonna be an Inhuman.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#126325: Mar 26th 2021 at 10:23:12 AM

Lockjaw just teleported away and never came back.

TBF, Kamala being an Inhuman actually didn't come up until several issues in. She didn't even know she was one at first. So maybe it just won't come up?

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