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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#126226: Mar 23rd 2021 at 11:44:04 AM

Feige could leave on his own terms.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126227: Mar 23rd 2021 at 11:44:19 AM

Okay this movie I’m actually tempted to pay for.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#126228: Mar 23rd 2021 at 11:45:27 AM

Getting who oversaw the most lucrative film franchise in human history this side of Star Wars to leave over this would be a monumentally stupid decision.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#126229: Mar 23rd 2021 at 11:48:31 AM

I'll have my vaccine by July. It might be cheaper just to go to the theater to watch the film.

Which is exactly what they're counting on, I would presume.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#126230: Mar 23rd 2021 at 11:51:04 AM

[up]They wouldn't have taken the D+ route for BW if they believed that. Either Chapek is planning to impose the same cost-cutting measures he's imposed on the parks for years or he's delusionally thinking D+ will supplant theatrical as a greater cash-flow machine, something the newspaper industry learned the hard way that it wasn't the case when they went all in on digital.

Edited by Mario1995 on Mar 23rd 2021 at 2:51:31 PM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Brandon Deadly Vu! from Between Thanksgiving and Christmas (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Deadly Vu!
#126231: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:06:44 PM

I wonder what they're gonna do about that "meet Scarlett Johannson at the film's premiere" contest from a couple years back.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#126232: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:07:24 PM

[up][up]Considering some of the news, like Warner giving Cinemark a 45-day exclusivity window for cinema only releases (aka no more same day HBO Max film releases) starting next year and the wide variety of cities and local municipalities desperate to turn back the clock to pre-COVID era (Party's over assholes, get back into the office!), I can't see that being the takeaway.

[up]I imagine it will be like the Nintendo Power contest to win a cameo in The Mask 2.

Yeah.

Edited by Beatman1 on Mar 23rd 2021 at 3:07:54 PM

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#126233: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:07:39 PM

"Zoom call with Scarlett Johanasson on premiere night"?

I highly doubt anyone is firing Feige over this. The MCU is worth a quadzillion dollars and everyone is just trying to make the most of a bad situation.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#126234: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:15:18 PM

Are we still getting Eternals at some point? I can't see its name in the new release dates...

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#126235: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:18:01 PM

No one on the creative team has anything to do with distribution. Why would Feige be in any danger?

Quoted for emphasis.

The only way I see people losing jobs over this is if the film fails to make money and they can't pay people, which admittedly was probably going to happen no matter what they did. Either way, Feige would not be one of those people.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#126236: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:19:44 PM

In any case, I am definitely watching Black Widow in theaters. I haven't the money for another streaming service and the only reason I have HBO Max was because it came free with a new AT&T plan.

I just have to hope my local theaters will be open and properly sanitized by July.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:21:03 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#126237: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:21:41 PM

Whether I pick premiere or not is going to depend on if I can get a watch party going.

Raya was no problem for me because I have a big family who wanted to watch together and we all pitched in, but that same family isn't likely to want to watch Black Widow.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:22:06 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#126238: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:27:12 PM

Even if there wasn't an epidemic going on and it was still released in theaters, I'm probably not going to watch Black Widow unless it gets particularly good word-of-mouth anyway. A mix of Scarlett Johannson's bizarre antics, her character's fate in Endgame, the film coming too-little-too-late and the genre/approach not really seeming to offer anything particularly interesting (released images don't have me believing it's going to be a cinematographic/visual feast), means it's looking like it'll sit in the So Okay, It's Average zone of MCU quality.

As much as I loved her in the The Winter Soldier and Civil War, she's dead. Similar characters like Sam and Bucky are full of potential for more stories to be told, but with her it's mostly about filling gaps and being a launching point for what's essentially a Post-Script Season. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but diminishing returns. Outside of its plot about gaslighting Captain Marvel was also incredibly average and failed to make the most of its potential, so Black Widow will have to work hard to sell me on doing more with its concept than that one did.

Edited by AlleyOop on Mar 23rd 2021 at 3:28:44 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#126239: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:28:41 PM

Even if there wasn't an epidemic going on and it was still released in theaters, I'm probably not going to watch Black Widow unless it gets particularly good word-of-mouth anyway. A mix of Scarlett Johannson's bizarre antics, her character's fate in Endgame, the film coming too-little-too-late and the genre/approach not really seeming to offer anything particularly interesting (released images don't have me believing it's going to be a cinematographic/visual feast), means it's looking like it'll sit in the So Okay, It's Average zone of MCU quality.

... aren't all those things things that would be unrelated to the actual quality of the film itself?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#126240: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:30:08 PM

Two of them are. The last one is definitely my concern that the movie itself will not be anything special until I'm told otherwise, which are exacerbated by the former. And I do think an Interquel about Developing Doomed Characters is somewhat quality-related in a meta sense.

Unless it's framed as an Author's Saving Throw to help further contextualize her decision to sacrifice herself, although I do think it already made sense from a narrative standpoint and that part of it wasn't really my issue in the first place.

Edited by AlleyOop on Mar 23rd 2021 at 3:32:10 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#126241: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:32:41 PM

I’m in this for Taskmaster.

Plus the Widow family looks cool.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#126242: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:33:43 PM

Why are we discussing Fiege leaving. He's more or less the reason the mcu functions and didn't become a clusterfuck. Getting rid of him for something like this is a really stupid idea.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#126243: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:33:53 PM

Well, I think they were going to have to give in sooner or later. It was keep stalling or make it dual release.

Not sure how I'm going to watch it, even if I do get a vaccine in time.

I suppose we'll see.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#126244: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:40:43 PM

Currently, there weren't way too many good options, really. This whole corona crisis just keeps getting second winds, so...

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#126245: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:49:36 PM

Honestly I think the poor vaccinations in Latin America and Europe factored into this more than anything else.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#126246: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:50:17 PM

I'm dead certain that Black Widow has to come out before some unknown other film/show because Yelena Belova is going to take over being Black Widow, and she needs to be introduced first.

Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#126247: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:51:28 PM

Will people cough up 30 for BW?

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#126248: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:52:16 PM

[up]x6 Feige has apparently said that he would rather the movies not be simultaneously released on D+, which somehow means either he'd quit in protest after this or he'd be fired. Also that there would be "catastrophic layoffs" at Marvel Studios for those same reasons.

[nja]'d

Edited by Aleistar on Mar 23rd 2021 at 3:53:47 PM

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#126249: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:54:37 PM

No. Please No.

Like just check out the st trilogy for what happens when a big franchise has zero oversight. The result is awful

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#126250: Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:56:12 PM

I agree with you; it'd be a massive unforced error and I don't think Feige would quit over it. I'm just reiterating what other posters at the bottom of the last page were saying.

Edited by Aleistar on Mar 23rd 2021 at 3:56:47 PM


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