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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#125976: Mar 11th 2021 at 8:18:47 PM

I mean even before he chugged a gallon of Hulk blood the initial serum was already doing unsettling things to his spine...

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#125977: Mar 11th 2021 at 8:19:48 PM

It is interesting how the use of the Serum on Steve Rogers and the use of the Serum on Emil Blonsky contrast each other. With the former it was used to give an unfit fresh recruit the strength to compete with hardened soldiers. With the latter it was used to give a worn down veteran the strength to compete with younger soldiers.

Edited by M84 on Mar 12th 2021 at 12:20:16 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#125978: Mar 11th 2021 at 8:20:27 PM

It's been a while since I've seen Incredible Hulk, but how did Blonsky become Abomination then if the serum didn't change him?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#125979: Mar 11th 2021 at 8:22:14 PM

[up]He became the Abomination due to consuming the Hulk's blood. The blood combined with the serum already in his system transformed him into the Abomination.

Disgusted, but not surprised
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#125980: Mar 11th 2021 at 8:22:18 PM

The serum gave him super strength, a healing factor, and it mutated his skeleton a little bit, but the big mutation came when he injected Hulk blood into him.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#125981: Mar 11th 2021 at 8:51:01 PM

He had three operations. The first injection of serum gave him boosted speed and agility but it made him arrogant and he lasted exactly 1 second against the Hulk. After healing every bone in his body overnight, he had a second injection, which caused his spine to start poking out ominously. Finally he had Doctor Sterns imbibe him with the Hulk's blood, which turned him into a very handsome and kind man.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#125982: Mar 11th 2021 at 10:31:20 PM

Getting a second dose may have caused his body to start physically changing the way Steve Roger's body changed when he was given the Super Serum.

No wonder Steve screamed in agony during the transformation. Every bone in his body was going through what happened to Blonsky's spine. It's probably a good thing the transformation itself wasn't actually shown.

I picture it as a somewhat less grotesque version of what happened to Bane in Batman: The Animated Series when he got an overdose of Venom.

Edited by M84 on Mar 12th 2021 at 2:34:55 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#125983: Mar 12th 2021 at 8:42:40 AM

Yeah. I remember that moment where Erskin was explain how the formula enhances what's already in a person, not just physically, but mentally, and then thinking back to what happened to blonsky.

The revelation that the only thing that went wrong is that the formula did exactly what it was supposed to do was heavy.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#125984: Mar 12th 2021 at 8:46:03 AM

RE: Sam Wilson Xbox commercial:

Awfully well made for an Xbox commercial. It really does feel like they did their homework because apart from die-hard comic nerds, who would know Sam had nephews? And apparently Aaron, the clerk Sam talks to, is the same Aaron who worked at the Apple Store in The Winter Soldier. [tup]

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#125985: Mar 12th 2021 at 9:24:21 AM

So....do we ever hear anything about what Tony did with Extremis?

One Strip! One Strip!
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#125986: Mar 12th 2021 at 9:28:45 AM

Probably forgotten until needed. That's too bad, having Pepper permanently gain fire and regenerative powers would have been cool. Agents of Shield got some mileage out of Extremis if I remember correctly, but they sadly don't quite count.

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VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight
#125987: Mar 12th 2021 at 9:33:43 AM

Man, they did Pepper dirty on that regard, they definitely should have given us pyrokinetic Pepper in Endgame in addition to the Rescue armor

Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, ngl
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#125988: Mar 12th 2021 at 9:34:00 AM

[up][up]THEY DO COUNT!!!!

<Takes a breath>

Excuse me. I gotta cool my head.

<Takes another breath>

Alright. Now, just because a book has a different design doesn't mean they've tossed the entire series out.

Has anyone said it's been tossed out. Cause again, it's only the last two seasons that should be.

Now until I hear Word of God, I'll have no more of this Agents of Shield is no longer canon talk.

And if I do hear Word of God saying other wise, then like a proper internet hypocrite, I'm gonna be nettled.

[up] Pepper's armour being powered by Extremis rather than an arc reactor would have been interesting.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Mar 12th 2021 at 5:34:50 PM

One Strip! One Strip!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#125989: Mar 12th 2021 at 9:34:44 AM

Then she would literally be a flaming hot Pepper. [lol]

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Mar 12th 2021 at 9:35:15 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125990: Mar 12th 2021 at 9:39:41 AM

Hah, thats definitely a reason they should have done it

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#125991: Mar 12th 2021 at 9:41:28 AM

[up][up][awesome]

[up][up][up] Believe me, I'd like nothing more than having AoS still counting. I just don't want to keep my hopes too high up. The best I'm hoping for is never having the MCU outright contradict AoS (I've stopped hoping for a cameo or reference, although the power limiter Carol had in Captain Marvel reminded me a lot of what Kasius used on Quake), but I fear it will happen at some point, especially if they decide to make Ms Marvel an Inhuman.

Edited by C105 on Mar 12th 2021 at 6:42:06 PM

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#125992: Mar 12th 2021 at 9:43:45 AM

The last two season being totally unable to sync with the main mcu more or less doomed it sadly

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#125993: Mar 12th 2021 at 10:00:52 AM

Agents used it as part of a slightly silly storyline, where someone made a super-serum by mixing together a bunch of stuff from various movies. Erskine's serum, gamma radiation, extremis, and some other stuff (platelets from an original character, DNA from an Inhuman with regenerative powers, and a drug made from Kree bodily fluids). It felt quite "remember all these films we're in the same universe of!" though that was kinda Agents' vibe for the first few seasons.

EmeraldEmperor Lies and Violence! Since: Oct, 2020
Lies and Violence!
#125994: Mar 12th 2021 at 10:02:42 AM

It is Hydra. As previously established with the "touch the scary rock" mentality in the WandaVision thread, "putting a bunch of stuff that causes superpowers in a blender" is right up their alley.

Edited by EmeraldEmperor on Mar 12th 2021 at 10:04:05 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#125995: Mar 12th 2021 at 10:09:03 AM

I actually liked it as a story element

Didn’t feel to me “remember all these movies” so much as people in universe working with everything available, which yes did happen to be all the movies

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#125996: Mar 12th 2021 at 10:36:18 AM

Mr. Barnes and Mr. Wilson's debate on what constitutes as "the big three", the complete edition:

Also, staring contest:

Man, I am really gonna love TF&TWS. waii

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 12th 2021 at 10:40:10 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#125997: Mar 12th 2021 at 10:47:23 AM

Bucky saying that he read The Hobbit, the book, in 1937, when it first came out, kills me.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#125998: Mar 12th 2021 at 10:55:40 AM

The Star Spangled Man With A... Plan?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#125999: Mar 12th 2021 at 11:08:39 AM

Bucky saying that he read The Hobbit, the book, in 1937, when it first came out, kills me.

Middle-earth fans will be coming in drives for sure!

The Star Spangled Man With A... Plan?

[lol][lol][lol]

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#126000: Mar 12th 2021 at 11:18:24 AM

Bucky confirmed for an old school geek grin.

I'm glad their offset antics are translating pretty well to the screen so far.

Edited by AlleyOop on Mar 12th 2021 at 2:21:03 PM


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