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I can't say I'm too familiar with Sally Floyd to comment on her specific case, but speaking generally, I see widely disliked characters who aren't explicitly evil mostly as a potential challenge for a writer to take on and Rescue them from the Scrappy Heap.
As far as I'm concerned any writer who isn't aggressively terrible can make you root for Captain America if they want to, but making you root for someone you couldn't stand previously is the mark of a truly brilliant writer.
Agreed. Most writers don't always have the drive to do that though.
Not that I can always blame them. It's entirely up to them to decide if it's worth trying or not. Sometimes a character appeals to you, and sometimes they don't.
Sally also once supported the 'clean Wehrmacht' myth which didn't help at all
God, its like she speaks entirely in stupid.
She took extra stupid pills. Much more than the regular Marvel verse citizen.
What a dumbass.
She prolly doesn't even know what the Nazi party is.
What makes Sally Floyd worse is that she's a character whom writers expect the readers to agree with. That's what sets her apart from the likes of J. Jonah Jameson, whom writers clearly portray as in the wrong most of the time. Despite the fact that so much of what she says and does is wrong.
She's Unintentionally Unsympathetic.
Edited by M84 on Aug 10th 2020 at 2:15:06 AM
Sure she does. They're on twitter.
But are they on myspace?
Which is why I genuinely enjoyed her being dragged away by Hydra Cap's goons.
Hey Sally, these are all just poor, misguided patriots, don't blame 'em!
Edited by Forenperser on Aug 10th 2020 at 11:13:49 AM
Good lord imagine if she said that shit within earshot of Magneto.
Never tell him "There're just following orders."
Ultimately, the problem with Sally Floyd is that she usually acts as a writer mouthpiece. Meaning the writer wants us to take her side. So that ridiculous "Myspace" speech? The writer expects us to agree with her.
It doesn't help that her usual role is to be a normal person criticizing Marvel superheroes.
She is definitely indicative of how fucking dumb the whole writing surrounding Civil War was.
This, I cannot and will not defend.
I think the Marvel writers spent so much time making the civilians look unreasonable for criticizing superheroes they don't know how to actually write a sympathetic person who criticizes superheroes.
Edited by windleopard on Aug 10th 2020 at 3:43:58 AM
Now recall what I said about Sally Floyd being used as a writer mouthpiece. Meaning whoever wrote that actually believed that myth at the time of writing.
Welp. She's done for. I ain't jumping to help her.
But yeah. Don't use your characters as mouthpieces.
Well, at least she doesn't exist in Captain America: Civil War, or if she did she had a role so minor I've forgotten she was even in the film.
It's not a saving grace of the movie or anything, though. The movie still has a lot of issues, but Sally Floyd is thankfully not one of them.
Even Miriam Sharpe wasn't an issue in the movie.
Sally Floyd was an American computer scientist and I feel sad that a notorious comic book character has the same name
Sally Floyd wasn't in the movie.
Edited by windleopard on Aug 10th 2020 at 7:08:59 AM
That was the point me thinks.
I was referring to the "or she did and she had a role that was so minor I forgot" part.
If they were being humorous, I apologize for not realizing that.
I honestly didn't know if she was in the movie or not, there's no need to apologize. Thank you for telling me.
Okey, I read the speech and it wasnt....so bad? everyone is just fix in the myspace as it was the basis on the argument and was just the point of "Cap, american it isnt what is suposed to be" also the whole "you think yourself and army and if that is the case I want accountability" I cant disagree with that.
And is hilarious the clearn wehr myth because can did use a variant of that in the movie by implying Wanda and pietro were people fighting the wrong side.
Of course that would being the atention the fact that Wanda decide to colaborate with hydra.
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