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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
Team Rocket Boss.
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Since Tony is in the habit of making supervillains these days, might as well make Kang his descendant instead of Reed's to simplify things for the non comics crowd.
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Kang also thought he might be Doom's descendant at one point.
Guy has no idea.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Oh, bother.
It's entirely possible he's also Doom's descendant if one of Doom's descendants married one of Nathaniel's descendants. Given how far off in the future Kang was born, it's possible that the family trees intertwined.
Edited by M84 on Aug 7th 2020 at 2:05:22 AM
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The Head of the Hydra
Once Reed enters the equation there wouldn't be any reason to connect Kang to a character who's dead & no longer has any relevance aside from the characters most directly connected to him...... so Rhodey essentially.
Edited by slimcoder on Aug 6th 2020 at 11:07:01 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Funny but not helpful
I mean theres no reason to have him related to anyone
He's from a thousand years in the future. That's so many generations that he could be related to every important character.
And it wouldn't matter!
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Oh, bother.
Kang being a descendant of Nathaniel Richards in the comics is significant in that he's the latest bearer of the Richards family name. His real name is in fact Nathaniel - he's named after the first Nathaniel Richards.
Disgusted, but not surprised
If you want the proper experience, switch the second and third film there; Ant-Man and the Wasp's post-credits scene specifically hinges on you having seen Infinity War beforehand.
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Ordinary Corrupt Android Love
James Spader was definitely good casting, just wish he had better writing.
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Would he still be granted access to the Ancestral Plane?
Most of the bad stuff Tony did in Civil War was in the tie-ins. In the main book, he was trying to limit the harm caused by the pro-reg side and end the conflict with as little bloodshed as possible. Steve is actually the bigger asshole in the main book where he keeps escalating the conflict past what is reasonable until he realizes how far he’s gone and turns himself in.
[[quoteblock]] Make him...somewhat humble too. Yeah, he's smart, he knows he's smart, and maybe he can be Innocently Insensitive about it, but he never actively seeks to lord it over everyone, and doesn't think he's got anything to prove.
The Tim Storey movies and World’s Greatest Heroes animated series made Reed much nicer than he was in the comics. So it isn’t impossible.
Team Rocket Boss.
That last bit, is reasonable but Spidey is getting his brains far more emphasized in later adaptations.
Like he's smart but not like a super genius or a Reed Richards in the making like some versions would have you believe. Marvel's Spider-Man had the Great Power line written as an equation for christ's sake.
Besides, if you have supervillains either smart or stupid, people will make assumptions either way.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 7th 2020 at 2:55:03 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
With killmonger: I mean, Gninja is right in some sense because for all sympathic eric is, he is also a edgelord: uber violence, belive to know better than everyone, is villian name IS killmonger(or Ki115onger, probably) is just the context give a sort of gravitas around him rather than just being a huge ass.
And yeah, I think he deserved to be redemdeed, probably smack around a little bit to wipe is pretenious out of him, but HE DOES deserve a shot of redemption.
On richard....I think future movie would make better of use his genius skill isnt?.
Also I want to see spiderman interact with the four, as nod to the comics.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Foreign Troper
Tony in the main book still put up a concentration camp in the Negative Zone, made a Thor clone that murdered a friend and rationalized it away ("Any police officer would've reacted the same way" IIRC which....yeah, did NOT age well).
So yeah, even in the mainbook I think the Pro Reg side was far worse.
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And yet what is funny is that tony have being beat up for that, while reed who suport it...did not.
It wasn't a concentration camp and it was supposed to be a temporary holding facility until they could make a more secure prison on Earth. I can't defend the Thor clone but even Tony said he wasn't supposed to kill Goliath. The police officer rationalization came from Miriam Sharpe.
Team Rocket Boss.
Putting people in the NEGATIVE ZONE concentration camp or not is seriously a dick move though.
Like that place tortures your mind.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Was it always like that? I confess to not being overly familiar wuth the place but from what I understood, "the Negative Zone tortures your mind" first came up during Civil War.
Surrounded by weirdoes
And EMH showed why else it was a bad idea to build a prison (or anything) there anyway. The inhabitants are not friendly.
Edited by Blueace on Aug 7th 2020 at 10:40:22 AM
Wake me up at your own risk.
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Tony really did become the scapegoat for the whole event
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Foreign Troper
I think the Negative Zone was always a place where living is not nice, yeah.
Also, it doesn't really matter if the most heinous actions happen in the tie-ins or not as they are canon either way.
I for one am glad that Tony got rehabilitated after Dark Reign.
But Civil War 2 wasn't much better, in many aspects it was even worse, just with Tony on the more reasonable position this time, ironically.
Edited by Forenperser on Aug 7th 2020 at 4:52:46 PM
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Team Rocket Boss.
Civil war 2 is a shitty event that no one walked out of looking good.
Man, i'm pretty glad Peter gets to miss out on these events. Poor Miles has to put up with this shit. Secret Empire and Civil War 2 did Miles dirty.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 7th 2020 at 8:06:43 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Spiderman, not matter is identity, really get the shorter end of the stick with the civil war, isnt?.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
The Head of the Hydra
It’s Spider-Man, when doesn’t he get the short end of the stick?
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Surrounded by weirdoes
He is a man on the street. This stuff always screws those over.
Wake me up at your own risk.
It remenber a post of tobias saying that any cosmic villian in general have to earn his creed by shitting on spiderman life.
is like a test a this point, everyone have to do it.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Considering that comics Kang is a descendant of Nathaniel Richards (Reed Richards' father), that wouldn't be much of a stretch.
Yes, that means Reed Richards is Kang's great-great-great-great (etc.)...grand-uncle.
Edited by M84 on Aug 7th 2020 at 1:54:39 AM
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