Marvel Cinematic Universe

With a name like Black Widow I keep expecting Spider People,if there's not a spider themed superhero like that there should be

Black widow with spider power would be awsome, I admit that.

Well, Black Widows were named for their habit of eating their partners after mating (although it's been argued this behavior only happens in laboratory settings where the male could not easily escape). The name was then used to describe incidents were women seduced and then murdered their husbands after marrying them, typically to gain their inheritance.

Natasha was given the codename to reflect her origins as a Femme Fatale. Essentially, Black Widow was a quick shorthand that she was seductive, but dangerous.

Of course, when she's part of a universe where there are quite a few people with spider-powers, the name can be a bit misleading.

x2: Marvel's Spider-Man toyed with the idea using Natasha for its adaptation of Spider Island (2:50).

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jul 8th 2020 at 5:01:08 AM

The Black Widow codename is used briefly in Winter Soldier, when a Hydra operative is talking to rumlow. And Zemo briefly refers to her as that when he's talking to Bucky's Russian handler.

There was a very short bit in the Silver Age where Black Widow decides to figure out what Spider-Man uses for his gadgets, and she's shocked to learn that he has legit superpowers, he's not a Badass Normal like she is.

It would seem Wakanda is an inspiration for Kanye West who hopes to be President of the U.S.

While I think there was an intention to inspire black people with this movie...not like this.

He is definitely gonna use this as an excuse to dress up like BP.

Isn't BP normally a laughing stock among conservatives? Don't think that will earn him any votes.

Nope, that's Captain Marvel. I'm thinking most conservative people besides the racist ones are okay with it.

Kayne is a joke regardless. Everyone sees it for what it is, a lame publicity stunt.

Then I guess it's just the White Nationalists who constantly bash it.

Makes sense.

Then again, Elon Musk endorsed him. Someone else had to point out that Kanye was anti-abortion and an anti-vaxxer, which is when Musk decided maybe endorsing him even as a "joke" wasn't a good idea.

I wonder if the new movie will make Black Widow retroactively a super soldier. (Just like in the comics)

Kanye West as President. Kim Kardashian as First Lady.

This is something straight from my nightmares, but with how 2020 is, you never know.

Edited by ChumlyX1995 on Jul 9th 2020 at 9:50:34 AM

That would be an unnecessary RetCon in my view, especially since Natasha has never displayed Cap's level feats. Also, it would feel strange to have a super soldier be the ultimate goal of so many groups for a decade of movies, only to retroactively announce that one of the main characters was one all along.

In the comics, Natasha's powers are simply slowed aging and a very powerful immune system. Other than that, she's pretty much a highly skilled human.

Ok, that could work, and be explained as "special Black Widow perks". But I'm not entirely sure what purpose this would serve, unless they want to play that up with her successor.

Yeah, the cinematic universe dosent really need this list of excuse to kept a chararter eternally young in order to kept selling aventure, natasha could just move the chararter to someone else.

Also it would be weird to have her as super soldier when she have lost to bucky everytime they fight.

I wonder if CGI tech can give us a proper masked Green Goblin now (that is, with an Expressive Mask). I've wanted to see a classically designed (or something similar to it, at least) Goblin on the big screen for ages, but I can understand that Latex Perfection costumes and masks are among the hardest things that are common in comic books to adapt to live action.

That said, I would prefer if they kept using villains that haven't hit the screen yet vs the same villains again. Or if they're going to repeat a classic villain who's already been in movies, I'd prefer Ock to return than another Goblin.

But we've already had another Ock, even if it's the female one from Spider-Verse.

I'd be curious if they'd try to incorporate Osborn's stint as the Iron Patriot if he ever appears in the MCU. Considering how close Peter is to Tony in the MCU, it be a different take if he had to fight against someone using Tony's armor for nefarious means. Maybe the Iron Goblin or something?

Then again, maybe that would be yet another villain with ties to Tony Stark. So, it'd be for the best to move away from that idea. I dunno...

Iron Patriot being an alt costume for War Machine seemed to confirm that wouldn’t happen.

They've experimented with a classic Goblin mask in the past, so I imagine with CGI and modern prosthetics it'd be even easier to do. Talos is already halfway there.