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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#118951: Jul 3rd 2020 at 9:57:01 PM

She mainly did because it was the only way she could stay alive.

Boomerang, for instance, is a guy who's been all over the dang place but has become somewhat Spidey-centric recently.

He started out as a Hulk villain.....which didn't go well for him.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#118952: Jul 4th 2020 at 1:22:16 AM

Wolverine also started as a Hulk villain.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#118953: Jul 4th 2020 at 2:37:33 AM

Pretty sure he was an Xmen first

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#118954: Jul 4th 2020 at 3:00:48 AM

No he was a Hulk villain first. Well, antagonist anyway. His first appearance was The Incredible Hul #180.

Edited by windleopard on Jul 4th 2020 at 3:02:43 AM

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#118955: Jul 4th 2020 at 3:08:16 AM

Wikpedia listed his Hulk appearance as a cameo before making a full appearance in the xmen comics

Interesting

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BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#118956: Jul 4th 2020 at 5:30:20 AM

Huh? No, Wikipedia lists Wolverine's appearance in The Incredible Hulk #180 as a cameo before making his first full appearance in The Incredible Hulk #181.

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#118958: Jul 4th 2020 at 5:40:44 AM

I read that comic, Wolverine looked weird. If memory serves, Hulk met him because Hulk was in Canada to avoid the US military. Hulk and Logan fought, and then they teamed up to fight the Wendigo.

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#118959: Jul 4th 2020 at 6:09:23 AM

Which actor would you want for Silver Surfer? Frankly, I think they could just bring back Doug Jones, with the right direction, that man is a phenomenal actor.

Although, there is something charmingly humanizing about the "actual surfer bro" take in Super Hero Squad, like Silver Surfer was just some surfer dude back on his home planet before he became Herald to Galactus, and his Herald power manifested as a surfboard because it's what he was most familiar and comfortable with. I don't know if Doug Jones can pull off "surfer bro", however.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#118961: Jul 4th 2020 at 7:29:40 AM

I read that comic, Wolverine looked weird. If memory serves, Hulk met him because Hulk was in Canada to avoid the US military. Hulk and Logan fought, and then they teamed up to fight the Wendigo.

Sometimes, it's strange to think that one of Marvel's most popular characters is Canadian in nationality not American. Especially, when he so brutally averts the stereotype of Canadians being polite to a fault.

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#118962: Jul 4th 2020 at 7:53:16 AM

The same thing applies to Deadpool, too.

Although it's pretty much a Running Gag at this point that Canada is a hellhole in the Marvel Universe.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#118963: Jul 4th 2020 at 8:05:47 AM

Be nice to comic writers, or your country will be made to look terrible. Larry Hama served with rude Australians in Vietnam, so when G.I. Joe needed a rude biker gang, he made them all Australians who were portrayed as complete pigs.

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#118964: Jul 4th 2020 at 12:03:13 PM

Obviously we need this guy to come back as the Silver Surfer.

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#118965: Jul 4th 2020 at 12:43:12 PM

So, fun unrelated note, but did anyone see this? It's called "Gambit: Play For Keeps", a very well-produced Gambit film that seems to have been in production for about two years. Production values are through the roof for a fan-film. Gambit and Rogue get some cool portrayals. The script is wonkier (it does come across like they had to chop it down from something that was significantly larger) but it still kind of works as a Rule of Cool little thing to make you wonder about Gambit on the big-screen.

Takes some visible cues from the crime thriller comedies of Guy Ritchie (Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Snatch, The Gentleman) and Joe Carnham (Smoking Aces, Stretch) but moreso the latter. It also bizarrely features none other than Eric Roberts as the Big Bad, which legitimately surprised me though I guess Eric Roberts has always been able to show up on anything if paid half a dime.

Edited by Gaon on Jul 4th 2020 at 12:44:32 PM

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#118966: Jul 4th 2020 at 12:56:32 PM

Cease and desist in 3,2,1...

How do they handle his card attacks?

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#118967: Jul 4th 2020 at 1:02:19 PM

[up]A not for profit fan film usually falls under Fair Use laws. They’re not stretching that definition to include licensed footage or anything.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#118968: Jul 4th 2020 at 1:28:11 PM

His cards attacks are in concept...well..his card attacks. He just tosses them, they glow purple (to varying extents) and they explode, knocking people backwards with a slight purple explosion. Aesthetically, they use a lot of slow-motion shots of people flying backwards and slow-motion close-up tracking shots of the cards flying towards the camera stylishly. The cards also often seem to float or levitate through the air while Gambit is shuffling through them or throwing them. It's aesthetically reminiscent of how X-Men Origins: Wolverine portrayed Gambit's powers, of all things.

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#118969: Jul 7th 2020 at 4:14:30 PM

In an interview with Empire, part of which was released in preview online yesterday, Black Widow director Cate Shortland implied the film will have Nat pass on her title to Florence Pugh's Yelena Belova.

"[Kevin Feige] realised that the audience would expect an origin story so, of course, we went in the opposite direction. And we didn't know how great Florence Pugh would be. We knew she would be great, but we didn't know how great. Scarlett is so gracious, like, 'Oh, I'm handing her the baton.' So it's going to propel another female storyline."

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#118970: Jul 8th 2020 at 1:00:39 AM

Hey, I remember speculating about the movie introducing the next Black Widow. For once I'd have been right when trying to predict movie plots.

Edited by C105 on Jul 8th 2020 at 5:58:18 PM

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#118971: Jul 8th 2020 at 6:35:36 AM

I've been thinking that ever since that actress was announced.

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#118972: Jul 8th 2020 at 9:12:18 AM

As long as she doesn't die or turns out to be bad, everything points to Yelena being the new Black Widow.


Off-topic: Does anyone know if the weapons Skurge used to kill Asgardian zombies were special in any way.? Or are the Asgardians in the movies really that weak?

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Jul 8th 2020 at 9:12:33 AM

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#118973: Jul 8th 2020 at 9:21:16 AM

Thing with making Yelena the new Black Widow is ... have the movies ever actually used the Black Widow codename?

MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#118974: Jul 8th 2020 at 9:33:29 AM

The "Black Widow" alias pops up in Avengers 2012, in the scene where she's playing those dudes who think they're about to torture her. I don't think it's used anywhere else outside of marketing.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#118975: Jul 8th 2020 at 10:42:51 AM

The fact that Black Widow takes place post-Avengers seems like a pretty indication that it'd be going that way, as it'd allow them to touch on Natasha's backstory and redemption without making the whole film a prequel, by using her own redemption of Yelena as a proxy vehicle.


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