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I'm still holding out hope for Kang the Conqueror. I'd love to see an Avengers movie with Galactus, mind you. And one with Doom. But right now feels like the time to bring in Kang, while f*cking around with time is still fresh in audience's memories.
Galactus has been in a bad movie too...
Kang seems the logical step now that time travel has been canonised in the MCU.
His head was in the clouds yeah but no actual character to leave impression on the audience,which is important because you won't have to worry about comparisons to another poor performance,only thing now is making a good first impression
How big of a Big Bad is Kang? Is he a Thanos-level "three phases and two Avengers movies" Big Bad, or is he an Ultron-level "one Avengers movie" Big Bad?
Depending on the story either or with a tendency towards the former.
Not only is Kang a big level threat, but there's... a lot to him, which would certainly fill a lot of movies.
Like, you could have the Captain Marvel meeting him in the present, and the Hercules meeting an entirely temporally different version of him in Ancient Greece, and then have the big bad of the arc be an entire Council of Kangs - all just the same guy at different periods of his history.
Jason Isaacs for Kang.
I'd say Ultron-level. The nature of his time travel gimmick is that there isn't a lot of prep work required to tell a Kang story, as opposed to all the setup needed for the Infinity Gauntlet. Essentially, Kang just pops into the timestream and does awful shit that the Avengers need to fight. He's not really a prolonged Myth Arc type of character.
The only priming the audience needs is a willingness to accept that time travel exists, and Endgame already crossed that bridge. This, I think, makes Kang a good choice for the next Avengers threat while the solo movies are laying groundwork for later villains like Galactus.
So, like, one idea for the next three Avengers films could be
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 11th 2019 at 11:51:40 AM
The rules of time travel in his stories tend to differ from what Endgame used, though. For instance, Young Avengers has the present actively change in front of everybody because of Iron Lad (aka young Kang) refusing to become Kang.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 11th 2019 at 10:52:08 AM
You can always justify differing rules of time travel by Kang (or Strange) handwaving with the destruction of our Time Stone has rendered time itself unstable as a result or something of the sort (a excuse that works both for the multiple words interpretation and the Stable Time Loop interpretation).
The Kang War was also one of the best story-arcs in Avengers history and had some of the greatest moments.
Edited by alliterator on Jul 11th 2019 at 11:12:25 AM
Indeed. Right now, I believe the Word of God is that the destruction of our Infinity Gems doesn't have an effect on time because the Gems still exist, they're just in an atomized state (as opposed to being literally removed from time).
But that explanation only exists in Word of God form; it's never directly stated in the film, and so it's only quasi-canon. This makes it really easy for another writer to just write a film that says "No, Thanos smashing the Infinity Gems did f*ck up time and that's why Kang can be a thing."
They could even weave something about fixing the damage to the timestream into the plot of Kang's film.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 11th 2019 at 12:35:27 PM
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I've never thought that's so much of a problem. Narratively, time travel is similar in concept to magic in a lot of ways: the most important being that it has to be internally consistent (and thus make sense) no matter what you do, but another is that you can have different kinds/sources of time travel in a story that play by different rules, as long as the differences are clear and make sense.
We've already seen a bit of that. The Avengers' machine, using manipulations on Pym Particles, can't modify it's own timeline and can only create other timelines distinct from its origin. However, the Time Stone, being a powerful artifact fundamentally tied to the universe itself, can totally just rewind time in its own timeline and give you a do-over.
So Kang being able to do that would only really be a problem if they didn't explain it well. And since he comes from the far future there's a built in explanation: they could just have someone say "time travel doesn't work that way" and him reply "I don't have the limitations of your primitive technology. I am Master of Time" or somesuch villainous response.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 11th 2019 at 12:28:11 PM
The word of god re: the stones is that they'd eventually reform but it'd take a while. And Kang is from the future. Which is a while away.
I remember Secret Wars with the TV-headed asshat showing up saying he is from millions of years into the future, unless I'm misremembering.
Either way, I really don't want the Stones to show up anymore, feels like creative laziness to re-use a MacGuffin like that.
So, question. Who should be the new leader of the Avengers? I know the first and obvious answer would be Sam, but I believe Rhodey is a more adequate option, having more seniority than Sam (therw is Clint and Thir, but I don't see either a s leader material), and well I really would like him to be able to shine for once and get more spotlight.
What do you think?
Agreed that Rhodey has the seniority and military experience to be a good leader. Plus for a long time he was the only one with a positive relationship with Ross, so he has stronger connections than the others.
Huh I just realized this.
Both Rhodey & Sam started out as Tony & Steve’s Black Best Friends but now they’ve both out-lived their white guys.
Edited by slimcoder on Jul 11th 2019 at 2:30:07 AM
I'm curious, who was really the leader of the original Avengers? Cap? Iron Man? Nick Fury?
And who is still on active duty? Hulk, War Machine, Falcon, Bucky, and Scarlet Witch are still around, but everybody else is either dead, retired, off-planet, busy being a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, or not actually an Avenger to begin with (Doctor Strange, Black Panther).
Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Jul 11th 2019 at 5:33:31 AM
I went with Fury being the overall leader (by technicality) while Cap was the field leader.
Hulk got his left arm shriveled by the glove, so he might not be in fighting condition at least for a time (if ever), which would make him more of a science guy.
I know they said that Hulk's story isn't over.
So, I'm going to start Jessica Jones, first season.
Is it really that good?
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