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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#96651: Feb 9th 2019 at 6:25:22 PM

He did say his new body was "Designed Only for Killing." So they wanted to go there.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#96652: Feb 9th 2019 at 6:27:47 PM

Well, much as I love the way they wrote Calvin (by far and away my favorite character from the show), I do think MODOK isn't the kind of character that can be made justice with a TV budget.

Nightwire Humans inferior. Ultron superior. Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Humans inferior. Ultron superior.
#96653: Feb 9th 2019 at 6:55:47 PM

M.O.D.O.K - Moe Organism Designed Only for Kawaii

Bite my shiny metal ass.
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#96654: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:07:26 PM

Zabo was the best. I liked how his arc ended, but I wish there was some way for him to show up again.

I'm torn between not wanting them to cop out on MODOK and actually really liking what they did with Arnim Zola, enough that if they'd done a direct nod to his appearance in The Winter Soldier I'd've probably been on board for that.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#96655: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:19:17 PM

Zola was supposed to be in Ant-Man with the robot body, but the idea was scrapped in dev

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#96656: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:20:32 PM

[up][up][up] That... would actually be a very funny Alternate Universe gag. Or just a regular gag - I mean, B.R.O.D.O.K. was a thing that happened, and is canon

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Feb 9th 2019 at 9:43:35 AM

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#96657: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:33:51 PM

[up][up]I remember that concept art. That would've been so great.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#96658: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:36:46 PM

Like a Frost Giant's head on an infant's body!

My various fanfics.
Nightwire Humans inferior. Ultron superior. Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Humans inferior. Ultron superior.
#96659: Feb 9th 2019 at 7:58:51 PM

I remember before Winter Soldier came out, my go-to theory was that Zola would go on to found A.I.M, and he would become a Composite Character with M.O.D.O.K.

Bite my shiny metal ass.
Brandon Not a cat from Meribia Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Not a cat
#96660: Feb 9th 2019 at 10:42:17 PM

Loki series made official.

If I had a nickel for every film where Emma Stone falls off a balcony... I'd only have two nickels, but weird that there's two of them.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96661: Feb 10th 2019 at 10:50:13 AM

[up] That article is literally from November of last year and contains no new information.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#96662: Feb 10th 2019 at 10:51:27 AM

Could mean it's dead in the water like a lot of marvel shows

New theme music also a box
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#96664: Feb 10th 2019 at 11:03:23 AM

When I hear about Marvel scrapping all the Netflix shows and such (probably making them definitely non-canon and acting like they were never made) and only making shows related to the movies, it makes me think they think nothing important ever happens to anyone but the Avengers in the MCU. Boo. (Not that I don't like the Avengers).

Edited by Lymantria on Feb 10th 2019 at 2:04:09 PM

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#96665: Feb 10th 2019 at 11:12:21 AM

When I hear about Marvel scrapping all the Netflix shows and such (probably making them definitely non-canon and acting like they were never made)
You heard wrong then: the cancellation of the Netflix shows was and is entirely up to Netflix. And I have no idea where you got that they would "act like they were never made" from.

RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
Raven Wilder
#96666: Feb 10th 2019 at 11:13:07 AM

It's more like anyone that important things happen to gets made an Avenger. The title's handed out pretty willy-nilly.

"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#96667: Feb 10th 2019 at 11:53:44 AM

I mean, the Netflix series never really crossed over with anything else (there was, like, an occasional very weak reference in the other TV shows but it barely counts), so their cancellation probably won't change that.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#96668: Feb 10th 2019 at 1:48:24 PM

None of you seem to get my main point. I never said anything about crossovers.

Edited by Lymantria on Feb 10th 2019 at 4:56:40 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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AyyItsMidnight Ordinary Corrupt Android Love Since: Oct, 2018
Ordinary Corrupt Android Love
#96673: Feb 10th 2019 at 2:13:18 PM

I guess they were trying to say that it's a shame that characters outside of the Avengers or even the movies in general aren't getting the love that they should. I can definitely agree it sucks that Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Daredevil are getting the axe right as they'd all just finished pretty damn good seasons. Also I'm only kinda excited for the Bucky and Sam miniseries out of everything that's been confirmed. I think Loki's had plenty of time in the spotlight already and I'm so-so on Wanda and Vision, even if the former had cool moments in IW.

Edited by AyyItsMidnight on Feb 10th 2019 at 2:14:21 AM

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Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#96675: Feb 10th 2019 at 2:41:19 PM

I am happy as long as I get more Ao S.


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