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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
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Man that's sad cause seriously making a nonhuman character feel so human is certainly an achievement.
Its like Serkis' performance as Caesar from the Planet of the Apes trilogy.
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That'd be Winston Duke as M'Baku. And yes, he is delightful.
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M’baku’s actor is Winston Duke.
Serkis not getting a nomination for Ceasar is one of the biggest injustices in to world of cinema.
Or Gollum. But I guess I see the point...the acting is only half of the recipe, the animation is the second part.
Maybe there should be an award for best Motion capture acting, with the actor AND the animation team getting honoured. But there are only so many movies per year which feature one.
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Best animated character? Covers mo-cap actors as well as all characters in animated films.
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Danai Gurira also deserves a best supporting nomination. She was dynamite as Okoye. Really tremendous performance.
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Winston Duke definitely deserves an award for playing a Scary Black Man who hoots like a gorilla and is literally called "the Man-Ape" in the comics, and making the audience go "THIS GUY IS AWESOME AND THE BEST CHARACTER EVER" instead of just coming across like a super-racist caricature.
I also agree with this. In terms of the narrative, Okoye was basically a Mook. Her job was to be a Warrior Woman in a group of Warrior Women who had a name and a face so that the film could develop the mooks' identity. But her performance went far above and beyond the call of duty for a role that, by all rights, could have just been a Mauve Shirt, making her scenes into some of the most memorable parts of the entire film.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 18th 2018 at 12:58:00 PM
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It's hard to describe exactly why but I was glued to the screen whenever Okoye was doing anything, even though what she was doing wasn't always narratively remarkable. Gurira had an amazing performance.
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And she was in both movies too.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
They are very high-quality shows. We haven't yet discussed that, but I would say that's a possibility.
Eh, basically CEO speak. This doesn't mean anything.
I mean, what are they going to do, say no?
@Life being tough for mocap: I still remember the debacle of Tintin not getting nominated for an animated Oscar because it was mocap, but not getting nominated for a live action Oscar because it was animated.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 18th 2018 at 4:31:46 AM
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Well, mocap isn't animation. And apparently we have decided that even heavily CGI animated movies are live action if they just look realistic enough…
Frankly, the line between live-action and animation has blurred since Tron.
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With the way video-game graphics are advancing, they’ll be playable live-action movies in no time.
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There are live-action video games. They're mostly restricted to visual novels with limited choices, but they totally exist.
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And is set to keep burring with debates over the new "live-action" Lion King.
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Which isn't live-action, for the record. Photo-realistic animation is still animation.
No one involved in the making of the film has called it live-action.
This forum moves quickly.
I think we definitely need to have a mocap award... And then retroactively give like five of them to Andy Serkis.
And Winston Duke is charismatic as hell.
Also, I second that The Return of the King is a masterpiece.
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Everyone involved in the marketing does, though.
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> Also, I second that The Return of the King is a masterpiece.
hobbit parts 1 and 2 are better
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New theme music also a box
Trolls are no match for mithril.
I liked the performance of whoever played M'Baku (hopefully I don't confuse the name here) even better. He dominated every scene he was in, despite someone dressed up like a Gorilla should be stupid. But he managed to sell it as absolutely badass.