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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#90776: Nov 4th 2018 at 8:01:44 PM

Even in the comic storyline, very few heroes had actually been replaced by (living) Skrulls.

The Secret Invasion was really just a ploy to distract the Avengers into inaction and self doubt while a conventional invasion was underway.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#90777: Nov 4th 2018 at 8:04:23 PM

Honestly, that feels like the most boring route to take with such an idea.

Not saying that you needed a ton of major heroes to be replaced by Skrulls, but I feel like you could do considerably more with the paranoia angle.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#90778: Nov 4th 2018 at 8:09:39 PM

Well, the Skrulls do manage to convince Tony Stark that he is probably an sleeping Skrull. All they do is point out his constant fuck ups of Civil War and he eats it up. That was a highlight of the event for me.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#90779: Nov 4th 2018 at 8:16:31 PM

Ahh, Tony Stark and his fragile, fragile ego. "Oh man, I'm such a fuckup. Had all that psychic warning from touching the dead space whale and I still couldn't stop Grape Ape from using the Clapper to turn all my friend into dust. I probably am a Skrull... Wait, what have I been doing for the past ten years?"

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90780: Nov 5th 2018 at 1:13:04 AM

I think that one of the major Avenger needs to get replaced, but after Infinity war. This way all the movies still have the same meaning, but we also get the "damned, I didn't expect him to be it" shock down the line.

I would love it if they would do it like in EMH and replace Cap, complet with a story-line of him breaking out and making it back to earth...but if they don't have him around, well, there is always T'Challa isn't there?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#90781: Nov 5th 2018 at 5:28:08 AM

Ross is the last character I’d want to see as a Skrull. His whole deal works because he’s a person who legitimately believes in the flawed crusades he champions. He’s an ideologue and a representative of the dark side of the people’s answer to superheroes, who keeps pushing even in hard times, so the heroes always have to go around him, not through him.

Making him secretly be pushing a hidden society’s secret agenda and saying “oh yeah, that’s why he was in the Avengers’ way” misses the point. It’d be like revealing that the reason J Jonah Jameson smears Spider-Man was actually because Osborn was paying him all along. Marvel Studios made the right call by not lumping him in with the HYDRA reveals, and would ruin that by revealing him to be a Skrull.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 5th 2018 at 5:29:02 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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#90782: Nov 5th 2018 at 5:39:40 AM

Isn't it a thing that Skrulls are basically brainwashed to think they really are the person they're pretending to be? Logically, up until the Skrull sleeper agent "wakes up", they wouldn't act any differently than if they were just the same person all along.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90783: Nov 5th 2018 at 5:45:59 AM

Let's not make the whole thing too complicated.

What about President Ellis? Or whoever is leading the US in MCU now….

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 5th 2018 at 5:46:09 AM

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#90784: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:59:55 AM

President Donald... Duck, Howard's cousin from a different universe.

Drakon69 The dragon archnerd from greece Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The dragon archnerd
#90785: Nov 6th 2018 at 4:03:52 AM

Well anywey

What do you guys think about about the posibility of moon knight joining the mcu

feige has said that he is on the list of possible ideas for the future and james gunn said he wanted to have him in the mcu before the whole firing thing

Edited by Drakon69 on Nov 6th 2018 at 2:05:30 PM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#90786: Nov 6th 2018 at 4:08:18 AM

If Moon Knight were to join the MCU, I'd have assumed he'd be on Netflix. With recent events, I'm not so sure.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90787: Nov 6th 2018 at 4:17:01 AM

I wonder what will happen to the Netflix characters now that Netflix seems to look at letting those shows petering out.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#90788: Nov 6th 2018 at 5:31:03 AM

[up] I'm wondering if they’ll get continuations on Disney's streaming service. Last I heard, the Marvel shows on Disney's streaming service are being made by Marvel Studios themselves.

Hey, if it means the Netflix shows stop being depressing (and maybe have Spider-Man fighting the Kingpin later down the line), I’m all for it!

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#90789: Nov 6th 2018 at 6:15:56 AM

[up] I wouldn't hold my breath for Spiderman in a TV show.

Anyway, I hope the contract is set up in a way that Marvel is free to continue the shows if they chose to. Frankly, I would be very disappointed if they won't use the opportunity to create their own street-level verse.

And I want a proper conclusion for Agent Carter. I would take a small screen screening movie. I just want this conclusion.

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#90790: Nov 6th 2018 at 4:41:49 PM

I just can't wait for the Power Pack movie.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#90791: Nov 7th 2018 at 2:44:37 PM

[up] Was it announced?

[up][up] Would they be in the same continuity as the movies?

Edited by Lymantria on Nov 7th 2018 at 5:45:08 AM

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#90792: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:37:50 PM

Various people have said that they're either interested in working on it or actively working on it, so I'm guessing it's still in the beginning stages of pre-production.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#90794: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:49:26 PM

Avengers 4 : Avengers avenging 4 ever

New theme music also a box
lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#90795: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:51:07 PM

I hope that it really is called Avengers: Untitled.

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#90796: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:57:08 PM

Because even if we can't protect the Earth, we'll sure as hell... come up with something... eventually.

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Queen of Good Things, Honest
#90797: Nov 7th 2018 at 4:07:05 PM

Avengers: The Avengening

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#90800: Nov 7th 2018 at 4:55:03 PM

Avengers:

Pronounced “Avengers, Colon”.


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