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- This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
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Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
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so That means Thor 3 will be a mistake
Me Listening to You RN
Tournament Arc confirmed?
Apparently that last trailer wasn't the final one.
Despite the writer change, Captain Marvel is not getting a page one rewrite, and it sounds like all the stuff revealed about the plot during Comic-Con will remain in the new draft.
Wait, "Mighty Thor: Battle Royale" is its official Japanese name? That's kinda rad.
In honor of Defenders, comixology had a sale on a bunch of Iron Fist/Luke Cage/Jessica Jones books, including New Avengers.
It's my first time really reading it all the way though, and... I want it. I want it in the MCU so badly. If the Infinity War duology ends with the original Avengers disbanding, this is the direction I'd want the MCU to go in.
The roster, the team dynamics, the "regular people casting off the larger than life, diva-seque trappings of the first team and fighting the good fight their way" theme and theme of second chances, Dr. Strange, everything. And if Infinity War ends that way, it would fit in the universe extremely well, as long as Marvel someday decides to mix the tv and film verses and keeps ahold of Spidey.
Of course, there's no Victoria Hand equivalent. AOS killed off the genuine article, and that version didn't have the "ex-Dragon of a Big Bad trying to find a second chance" bit that made Hand interesting anyway. Nobody in the MCU does, because Marvel's even worse about disposing of minions as they are with villains.
edited 17th Aug '17 1:48:27 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Deranged X-Mas Figure
Eh. I just think it's So Okay, It's Average myself. It's not bad, but Busiek's run and others blow it out of the water. Never mind what Bendis had to do to even get to New Avengers.
Funny but not helpful
I've said it before but something left the Avengers after Disassembled. Some spirit or soul or tone to the team that has never come back.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Deranged X-Mas Figure
Same. Before Dissasembled, the Avengers had something to them; a sort of spark or life that made them stand out. They weren't just another Justice League. But after Dissasembled, that's about all they are.
What is your problem with the Justice League?
Generally speaking (there are exceptions before anyone wants to correct me) Justice League has a reputation for being more focused on spectacle while Avengers has a reputation for being more about character interactions and personal drama.
*5: I don't care so much that other runs might be better (otherwise I would've posted in the comics thread), as much as I think it's premise is a perfect way to go for the MCU moving forward and a great way to put the characters it has together.
Also, if they were still doing Marvel One Shots, the "biography of Avengers' team up in their own words" would make a pretty good short.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Deranged X-Mas Figure
Nothing really. Hell, the original classic League is one of the best and most respectable Super-teams out there, same as the original JSA. But the thing about the League is outside of certain incarnations like Detroit or International, (International is amazing by the way; it's basically 'Avengers: the Funny Version',) the focus is less on character interactions and development and more on just getting the World's Greatest Heroes (TM) together for some balls-to-the-walls action. That's not bad in and of itself, but it's just not my cup of tea. Basically, most versions of the League are 90% action and 10% character, while Avengers tends to be a much more balanced 50%/50%, with part of that being that most of the Avengers don't have their own books when they're on the team. Avengers just tends to be a much more satisfying package.
Well, why didn't you say so in the first place?
edited 17th Aug '17 5:15:44 PM by kkhohoho
Doctor Who — Long Way Around: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13536044/1/Doctor-Who-Long-Way-Around
Teen Groot looks weird, and I'm not sure if I like the smoother design for Tony's new armor. Cap looks great though. Interesting choice with the short sleeves, and the fact that he's reusing what seems to be his CW suit with the Avengers shoulder bit torn off and the star faded.
I literally just said why in the very post you quoted.
It's not like the only things worth adapting are the things that everyone can agree are the best overall runs. Otherwise, if that kind of thinking were true, we would've never gotten Civil War.
edited 17th Aug '17 6:41:10 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Deranged X-Mas Figure
Yeah, in that post sure, but not in the first place.
Nope, it's there. Try the third paragraph of my first post. Though that I think it would be great in the MCU is really the point of the post as a whole. I even blatantly say it twice.
edited 17th Aug '17 7:24:08 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
In all the excitement for The Defenders, let's not let this slip by.
Anyway, I won't have a chance to watch Defenders until tomorrow, but I'm really excited.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
I saw that after The Defenders ended. Good hype generator.
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
Well consider me hyped.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Love is Love is Love
So I'm watching the first episode of Defenders and Luke says that Seagate was hard.
My question is: How?
He can't get beaten up, he can't be intimidated, it's not like they can torture him. What danger is prison to the indestructible man?
My various fanfics.
There's a difference between being dangerous and being hard. Being in a hostile environment is hard even if you can take a billion punches (Foggy notes that Luke did it without ever losing his cool once, which is impressive). Being imprisoned for something you didn't do is hard even if you know that, one day, you'll get vindication.
Anywho, watching as well. I love the way the series transitions between very different cinematic styles and tropes depending on who the focus characters are.
edited 18th Aug '17 5:45:33 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Maybe the prison was literally hard, as in the walls were very tough.
Or it was perpetually aroused.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Thinking about it and looking at it though that lens, this really might be the MCU's most anime film yet.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.