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Does this need to be YMMV?: Genius Bonus

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Deadlock Clock: Mar 25th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
Hammer of the Pervs
#27: Jan 2nd 2012 at 7:33:33 PM

I still think this is a legitimate trope. I'll use the example I added to the Body Bags page: the city where the book takes place is called Terminus, GA. If you know anything about the history of Atlanta you know that it was originally called Terminus. This is not common knowledge, nor does it require any kind of esoteric academic speciality. Jason Pearson clearly put it in there so the reader could either look it up or say "Oh, clever," if he already knew that. I suppose putting that in Trivia would be okay, but I think it's definitely not YMMV.

edited 2nd Jan '12 7:34:04 PM by Martello

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#28: Jan 2nd 2012 at 8:03:04 PM

I really think we should split this into forms of reference. What you brought up would be a Historical Reference.

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Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#29: Jan 2nd 2012 at 8:13:01 PM

I strongly support categorizing and splitting. And marking it as trivia as well.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#30: Jan 2nd 2012 at 9:08:06 PM

Well references count as tropes, so would these.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#31: Jan 29th 2012 at 11:41:13 AM

There is now a page action crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add options as you see fit.

I am not sure I described the suggestions brought up in this thread that well, so if anyone would like to clarify them, feel free to edit the crowner accordingly.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#33: Feb 6th 2012 at 11:58:58 PM

Okay, splitting is in the lead so far. We'll see what happens later.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#34: Feb 9th 2012 at 10:03:19 AM

And it's still in the lead. Considering how old the crowner is, can we call this?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#35: Feb 11th 2012 at 11:52:42 AM

Calling crowner. First option has consensus.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#36: Feb 11th 2012 at 12:28:11 PM

Okay if we make ykttw's for the sub types?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#37: Feb 11th 2012 at 12:32:18 PM

Go ahead.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#38: Feb 11th 2012 at 12:46:54 PM

[up]Well it won't be immediate, but I'll have some up. But if others want to make them first, please link to them in this thread.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#39: Feb 15th 2012 at 4:15:38 PM

Okay, I'm having trouble making some of these.

I tried making one for literary references, but then I wondered if it should be limited to subtle references, or any references. Then I wondered if such a thing would more fall under Shout-Out than Genius Bonus anyway.

Then I tried making one for math references, and then wasn't sure what would qualify as a reference or just stating a math problem.

About the only think I'm sure of is if people acknowledge whether a reference is obscure, which I am making a ykttw for right now. Others I will need help with, or others making those tropes if they know the subjects better.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#40: Feb 15th 2012 at 4:36:45 PM

YKTTW for "They Admit The Reference Is Obscure"

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EnragedFilia Since: Oct, 2010
#41: Feb 16th 2012 at 2:00:55 AM

[up][up]I'd say that "just stating a math problem" is the equivalent of someone in a work simply mentioning another work by name. Whether it qualifies as a reference is a good question (does Phoebe mentioning that "this would never happen to someone named Hulk count as a reference?), it's definitely not a genius bonus. Even someone who has no idea what the significance of that math problem is can recognize it as a math problem. Now, if there's something significant in the math that isn't immediately obvious (such as an "imaginary friends" pun, that probably would count as a genius bonus because it requires actual understanding of the subject matter.

That's the important part of the concept, as I see it: if you need special prior knowledge in the field in question to fully understand something, it's an example.

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#42: Mar 22nd 2012 at 1:08:16 PM

I'm opening this thread on request, but clocking it. Let's hop to it.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#43: Mar 22nd 2012 at 1:26:00 PM

Okay, I just launched Lampshaded the Obscure Reference (decided to just get it over with). So anyone else want to make more Sub-Trope ykttws?

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troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#44: Mar 22nd 2012 at 2:42:14 PM

I feel like we should make a general Special Efforts thread for tropes that need to be YKTTW'd.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#45: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:18:21 PM

[up]Support that option.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#46: Mar 22nd 2012 at 5:22:18 PM

So would that mean this thread gets moved, or we make a new one?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#47: Mar 23rd 2012 at 5:53:22 AM

Make a new one. There is nothing that holds up TRS more than YKTTW actions.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#48: Mar 23rd 2012 at 11:18:52 AM

If the thread got moved, it would still be off TRS.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#49: Mar 23rd 2012 at 11:34:55 AM

I was following Troacctid's suggestion. A general thread, not just for Genius Bonus.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#50: Mar 28th 2012 at 12:54:28 PM

Was the reworking of the supertrope done? If so, I think we can close this.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

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29th Jan '12 11:37:11 AM

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What would be the best way to fix the page?

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