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Ben10fan Since: May, 2011
#1: Jul 30th 2011 at 4:57:26 PM

it is now official in both the US and Japan that "Cybertron" is indeed a sequel series to "Armada" and "Energon". so does that mean the Unicron Singularity retcon the events of "Armada" and "Energon" in it's reality warping or did it just change the characters perceptions of history?

Dorkus Since: Aug, 2009
#2: Jul 30th 2011 at 5:02:21 PM

Mmm, sure? *shrugs*

It's sort of like Transformers Robots In Disguise got turned sideways and shoved into the Transformers Generation One continuity. Despite it not making any sense.

Ben10fan Since: May, 2011
#3: Jul 30th 2011 at 5:08:11 PM

yes but I want to know if the other two parts of the trilogy were retconed or not.

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#4: Jul 30th 2011 at 8:11:12 PM

Yes, it was retconned. Initially, in Japan, Cybertron was its own series. When it got put in the US, it was retconned by the American division into the Unicron saga. Japan, up until whenever the subject of the first post happened, claimed that the two canons were different universes.

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ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#5: Jul 31st 2011 at 2:00:29 AM

Um,yeah, the retcon has been around since, 2007-ish for Japan, I think.

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Ben10fan Since: May, 2011
#6: Jul 31st 2011 at 6:18:32 AM

I meant in-universe. did the black hole do a Cosmic Retcon on the events of the first to series or did they still happen?

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#7: Jul 31st 2011 at 6:56:50 AM

Um, what do you mean by "first" series? Did you mean Armada or the original Japanese version of Cybertron?

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Ben10fan Since: May, 2011
#8: Jul 31st 2011 at 8:01:41 AM

I meant to say both "Armada" and "Energon".

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#9: Jul 31st 2011 at 8:11:08 AM

Oh. Well, it's not completely clear how the black hole retconned reality. See the section on "continuity" in this article.

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Ben10fan Since: May, 2011
#10: Jul 31st 2011 at 11:17:08 AM

should this subject be one of the times we should not listen to Word of God and deem "Cybertron" a stand-alone series? I want to know because of a Mega Crossover fic I'm writing that from "Cybertron" and I want to use storylines from the other two parts of the trilogy but I also don't like to take too much from a particular series when I'm already using it's characters.

edited 31st Jul '11 7:05:40 PM by Ben10fan

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#11: Jul 31st 2011 at 7:32:36 PM

Armada and Energon were retconned because they had a lot of negative things said about them from fans.(even if they liked the toys) Cybertron is really a stand alone series.

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ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#12: Aug 1st 2011 at 9:10:37 AM

[up]No, the retcon was just "Cyberton is a sequel, Armada and Energon happened, but it's not clear how much,since the Autobots can't remember very well".

[up][up]It's not Word of God. It's stated in the spinoff comic. It was even mentioned on the official website that Cybertron took place after Energon.

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Q:How many years have passed since TRANSFORMERS ENERGON?

A: The Story of TRANSFORMERS CYBERTRON takes place approximately 10 years after the end of the ENERGON story.

Note that the question was answered in-character by Vector Prime. So, Fourth-Wall Mail Slot. Different thing from Word of God.

edited 1st Aug '11 9:17:04 AM by ThatHuman

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Ben10fan Since: May, 2011
#13: Aug 3rd 2011 at 8:19:09 AM

I'm still not sure If I should consider "Cybertron" a stand alone or not. for one thing, if it's all the same universe, we come to the sad conclusion that all the Autobots efforts are for not as Alpha Q's planets got eaten by the black hole.

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#14: Aug 3rd 2011 at 8:29:46 AM

[up]Yes, exactly. Everything they did in Energon was tragically fruitless because of the black hole.

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#15: Aug 3rd 2011 at 8:42:13 AM

[up], [up][up] And I thought Beast Machines was depressing.

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