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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#201: Sep 24th 2011 at 5:59:28 PM

Queueing does sound like a plan.

troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#202: Sep 24th 2011 at 6:05:45 PM

We'd need a way to check what threads are in the queue to prevent duplication.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#203: Sep 24th 2011 at 6:14:40 PM

Have it flag anything pointing at the same trope. But stack the problem list.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#204: Sep 24th 2011 at 6:28:29 PM

And it would stop people trying to rush the TRS when we do get through the back log as well as provides incentive for people to contribute. The sooner that they help close other threads, the sooner we'll get to the issues they want dealt with.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#206: Sep 25th 2011 at 3:48:51 AM

Wasn't a queue proposed and dismissed before?

CaissasDeathAngel House Lewis: Sanity is Relative from Dumfries, SW Scotland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#207: Sep 25th 2011 at 4:49:37 AM

Liking the queue idea. We just KNOW that there will be a flood of new threads in TRS as soon as the forum is reopened for new threads.

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blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#208: Sep 25th 2011 at 7:29:56 AM

The queue idea was suggested and there was discussion about it and then the discussion drifted to other areas. The primary objection was that the queue would become, in essence, another backlog.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#209: Sep 25th 2011 at 7:35:01 AM

[up] Well, we can't just ignore problems because we're too busy working on others...having them noted somewhere, even if we can't work on them at the present time, is better than not acknowledging them at all.

blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#210: Sep 25th 2011 at 7:37:41 AM

Agreed

ETA: I'm making notes on my to do list.

edited 25th Sep '11 7:38:20 AM by blackcat

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#211: Sep 25th 2011 at 7:46:15 AM

Appreciate the recap a bunch, blackcat. Thanks!

'Queue' would mean a thread that has an OP, but cannot be replied to until the magic 1000 boundary is crossed. I think it would be simpler for people to use the To Do List feature to store their notes about issues they happen across.

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troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#212: Sep 25th 2011 at 9:03:13 AM

What about having a daily thread limit (like, two or three new threads a day) instead of a cap?

pokedude10 Since: Oct, 2010
#213: Sep 25th 2011 at 9:54:41 PM

[up] The problem with that is the TRS would then become a race between possible threads. There are days where we get 10 or more legitimate threads in rapid succession.

I could see an Hourly Limit work. But in then again, you have the same problem.

troacctid (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#214: Sep 26th 2011 at 4:35:27 PM

[up] Seems like that would just be even worse under a straight cap, except instead of having set intervals, there would be a new race every time an old thread got a lock.

pokedude10 Since: Oct, 2010
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#216: Sep 26th 2011 at 11:01:14 PM

Can the "find post by troper" function be tweaked to go back further in time than it currently does? I don't use the thread watchlist function enough and I'm not positive there aren't threads I've posted in that I've forgotten about.

Also, I don't think a queue will be sufficient to really have the end effect of depleting the number of stuck threads, it will instead keep at at whatever number the cap is at. An alternate idea: After each cap is met, have a couple weeks where new threads are permitted, then cap it again, but Moving the Goalposts down to a lower number. Repeat when the new goal is met. Re-evaluate plan when a significant percent of the backlog, say 75%, is cleared.

edited 26th Sep '11 11:05:28 PM by Elle

blackcat Since: Apr, 2009
#217: Sep 27th 2011 at 6:14:56 AM

[up] I had just logged on to make a similar suggestion. We want to reduce the backlog and keep the number of open threads manageable. At the same time we don't want to create a competition for getting a thread in. I keep thinking about how locks work when boats want to get from the Chicago River to Lake Michigan.

Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#218: Sep 27th 2011 at 6:55:50 PM

I had an idea, not sure related to what, but if tropers can tag articles that they personally think need some kind of cleanup (like via the to-do list), then somebody can generate a report about which articles have the most to-dos attached to them, flagging them as possible candidates for TRS'ing.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#219: Sep 28th 2011 at 9:23:59 AM

Yes! My suggestion for the locked threads to be carted away has happened! Down to eleven pages to sort though in the TRS!

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
mahel042 State-sponsored username from Stockholm,Sweden Since: Dec, 2009
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#220: Sep 28th 2011 at 9:33:57 AM


This post was thumped by the Eldritch Flyswatter of Horror

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Madrugada Since: Jan, 2001
#221: Sep 28th 2011 at 9:34:53 AM

The more I thought about that, the more I realized that a huge part of the problem wasn't the number of open threads, it was that as a thread gets older without action it gets buried in a mass of locked threads. So I passed the suggestion on to the Fast One and he whipped up a widget that automagically moves any thread that's locked in TRS or IP to the morgue (in the "Locked threads" section far lower right.

It won't actually reduce the backlog itself, but it makes it much clearer how bad it really is. (Or isn't, as the case may be.)

If you have a reason to want an old thread unlocked, hit the holler button on a post in it and ask for it to be unlocked and moved back to active status. Explain why!

edited 28th Sep '11 9:36:24 AM by Madrugada

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#222: Sep 28th 2011 at 9:40:50 AM

Exactly. That was what I was finding in my attempts to go back into thread. It was hard finding the open ones even when I was looking for them. It's nice that it's there though.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#223: Sep 28th 2011 at 9:44:41 AM

Woo-hoo! That should cut IP down to 5 or 6 pages of threads...much easier to navigate. [awesome]

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#224: Sep 28th 2011 at 9:50:39 AM

It would be nice though if things lingered for maybe a day rather than automatically poofing. That way we wouldn't have issues with things getting accidentally locked and then having to be moved back.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#225: Sep 28th 2011 at 10:04:34 AM

As is, there's a bit of a delay on it (as if it's a process that runs every so many minutes), but I do think a 1 day interval wouldn't be a bad thing.


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