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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#601: Dec 24th 2014 at 11:00:17 PM

One thing I really loved about this series was how thorough it was in describing characters, especially their flaws. This is among only few works where I can accept characters doing stupid shit because of their flaws, because honestly, in pretty much ALL series other than this, those contrived stupidities are due to bad writings.

Also, my favorite moment was probably how Gus died. Classy as hell.

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millardkillmoore Since: Mar, 2010
#602: Dec 24th 2014 at 11:06:27 PM

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Word of God is that they deliberately made almost the entire series result from Walt's Fatal Flaw, rather than just having contrived setbacks keep him in the meth business: He could have taken Gretchen and Elliot's offer and never worried about money again, but his pride wouldn't let him.

Tragedy works better when it's due to flaws in the characters rather than just bad luck.

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#603: Dec 24th 2014 at 11:07:59 PM

If anything, he has good luck. Mr. White, he's the devil.

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RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
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#604: Dec 25th 2014 at 12:42:29 AM

It's more that he has very good luck and very bad luck in about equal amounts, with very little middle ground.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#605: Dec 29th 2014 at 11:46:05 AM

I'm watching the marathon currently on AMC and quite frankly, even going back into Season 1, long before Walt actually goes past the Moral Event Horizon, you can see all the early signs of how spiteful of a person he is.

Not even just turning down Gretchen's offer, but one scene in particular had him destroying someone's car just because he was being rude and honking his horn at Walt while he was having a coughing fit.

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#606: Dec 29th 2014 at 1:25:33 PM

EDIT: F'ck. The twins were badass in the Season 3 stinger.

edited 29th Dec '14 1:28:04 PM by FOFD

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#607: Jan 19th 2015 at 6:28:12 PM

That scene in Season 5 where Walt sits down with Brock always bugged me, felt I was missing something. There's the obvious implication, that Brock may slightly remember Walt from the time he got sick. But watching the marathon now, I noticed something when Saul talked with him.

Even Saul Goodman, the corrupt lawyer, managed to get a smile out of Brock. Jesse was still in a bad place when he first met Brock, and became a "big brother/surrogate parent" to him. Walt though? Whether Brock remembers him or not, Brock's never smiled at Walt, despite Walt going out of his way to be nice to him.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#608: Jan 19th 2015 at 6:36:49 PM

Brock could sense the evil.

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#609: Jan 19th 2015 at 6:46:28 PM

Yeah, but he was being nice in that really creepy, insincere way that he has, where his facial expressions, body language, and voice harmonics are inconsistent with someone being motivated by simple goodwill.

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Millardkillmoore Since: Mar, 2010
#610: Jan 19th 2015 at 11:43:15 PM

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I know it's been said many times before, but Bryan Cranston is a really good actor.

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#611: Jan 20th 2015 at 3:19:51 PM

I dunno, man, now when I saw him in Godzilla being nice I couldn't help but look at his face for traces of insincerity. It's like he exhausted his range of expressions playing the very multifaceted and dissembling Walter, and now it's very hard to tell which of the emotions he's pretending to have are emotions the character has instead of one's he's pretending to.

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washington213 Since: Jan, 2013
#612: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:16:07 PM

Just finished the series. Awesome show!

Although one thing bugged me about season 5. Why did Walt call the cops on himself just before leaving New Hampshire?

EDIT: My two cents on Jesse. I wouldn't think he'd be in danger with the cops. Even if they found the tape at the Aryans', the tape would also be evidence that he was trying to bring down Walt.

And then finding the tape seems like a big if. It was months since they'd watch the tape. I doubt they would keep such a piece of junk for so long. It's not like they had any desire to use it. They probably watched it once before trashing it (or writing over it).

Speaking of the Aryans, IRL, doesn't the Aryan brotherhood despise drug use? Why would they cook meth?

edited 5th Apr '15 6:24:58 PM by washington213

Millardkillmoore Since: Mar, 2010
#613: Apr 5th 2015 at 6:26:25 PM

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He crossed the Despair Event Horizon once his son called him out on being such a monster. Tired of running, he was ready to finally turn himself in. But Gretchen and Elliot saying he contributed essentially nothing to the company slammed his biggest Berserk Button and he changed his mind.

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#614: Apr 6th 2015 at 4:18:25 AM

[up][up]Like a lot of actual drug dealers, they despise drug use, not making money out of it. Basically they despise their clients.

Biggest mystery of the show; how aren't Jesse's teeth rotten to the core?

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#615: Apr 6th 2015 at 6:19:33 AM

My two cents on Jesse. I wouldn't think he'd be in danger with the cops. Even if they found the tape at the Aryans', the tape would also be evidence that he was trying to bring down Walt.

Jesse is actually pretty screwed actually.

The two cops that he was working out plea bargain with in secret are dead. Saul is off the grid. Heisenberg is dead and his wife has more or less been cleared of any connections. With such a high profile case, the police and the public are going to want someone to come to justice over everything that happened, and realistically, that leaves Jesse. Word of God even mentioned that his finger prints are everywhere.

edited 6th Apr '15 6:20:10 AM by Lionheart0

washington213 Since: Jan, 2013
#616: Apr 6th 2015 at 5:22:47 PM

Biggest mystery of the show; how aren't Jesse's teeth rotten to the core?

Badger, Pete, and the fat one that dies, were in pretty good condition too despite also using meth. Maybe it's because they're social smokers, not junkie addicts? The only time Jessie really turned full junkie onscreen was when Jane died, and to a much lesser extent when he shot Gale.

edited 6th Apr '15 6:19:46 PM by washington213

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#617: Feb 22nd 2018 at 6:19:00 PM

[up]I poked around on some online forums. Looks like meth mouth doesn't happen to everyone, and risk of it is reduced by good oral hygiene.

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#619: Nov 8th 2018 at 1:20:46 PM

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Are you hyped for it? Disappointed? Meh?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#620: Nov 8th 2018 at 4:43:40 PM

"There's a lot of people who felt they wanted to see some sort of completion to some of these storylines that were left open," he said. Cranston noted that the project would follow "at least a couple of the characters who were not completed as far their journey."

This could be good or bad. Needs a trailer for me to get excited. Who would we really want to follow up on that would justify a two-hour film? Does Jesse's life not suck enough as it is?

Edited by Soble on Nov 8th 2018 at 10:23:54 AM

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AHI-3000 Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
#621: Nov 8th 2018 at 10:07:19 PM

Breaking Bad movie will act as sequel to series and follows Aaron Paul's Jesse Pinkman

Apparently, this film (working title of Greenbriar) will be a sequel starring Jesse Pinkman after his escape from the Neo-Nazi meth lab in the series finale.

I wonder how Walter White will fit into this, considering that he's dead. Flashbacks? Or perhaps he shows up as an imaginary friend talking to Jesse.

Among countless questions about the movie's plot and whether it will be good/bad/okay, I wonder whether this is getting a theatrical release? Or if it just airs as a TV film on the AMC channel. Hopefully, it will come out on Netflix soon so I can see it in high quality at home.

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#622: Nov 9th 2018 at 3:53:24 AM

I am glad to hear it's not a reboot or taking place during the series.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#623: Feb 8th 2019 at 7:19:43 PM

Sequel to the seried focusing on Jessie?

My oh my!

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Spinosegnosaurus77 Mweheheh from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#625: Mar 31st 2019 at 9:33:02 PM

To think they were going to kill his character off in Season 1.

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