Stingmon (and to a lesser extent Wormmon) was the new partner to a digidestined who was cool in both looks an personality.
Yes, I hated the armor mechanic.
And Stingmon was pretty damn awesome.
Also, their digivices looked stupid that year.
edited 6th Apr '12 10:51:21 PM by wanderlustwarrior
The sad, REAL American dichotomyIt just seemed annoying to have something else as a legacy thing, but most importantly, I really disliked the new 3 digidestined and their partners in all flavors.
I feel like an idiot. I just realized Monochromon -> monochrome. I was thinking solely the mono for the singular horn, and wondered every now and then about why the chro- was there when it should be cera- or something else.
The sad, REAL American dichotomyMonochromon should mainly into Triceramon, and that's all I should say about that.
The sad, REAL American dichotomyNah, because Vermillimon's just a palette swap. If it looked different, (like an actual ankylosaurus or protoceratops) I wouldn't mind that.
edited 6th Apr '12 11:11:31 PM by wanderlustwarrior
The sad, REAL American dichotomyAm I the only one who thinks Zhuqiaomon is a Karma Houdini? I mean he's like the Digi-Kurata,responsible for practically everything wrong. F Lip Digi-bigotry with Humans Are Bastards and there you go
-He sent the Deva's to cause carnage on Shinjuko
-He hired the Dog Deva,that Dog Deva caused Juri to fall prey to the D-Reaper,thus increase its power
Sure he realized he was wrong unlike Kurata,but he still indirectly almost destroyed two worlds on a stupid Humans Are Bastards excuse. Maybe you can argue that the D-Reaper was getting hit very hard with karma,but I still don't think it's enough
No one could've predicted the D-Reaper would use Jeri.
Also, Zuquiaomon was arguably right. Humans working with digimon sped up digivolution which sped up the progress of the D-Reaper. And even if that weren't true, not all digimon agree with the need for a partner.
Note that Lopmon/Antylamon, the most levelheaded of the partners besides maybe Renamon, still addressed him with full respect and understanding even as she disobeyed. And he was still generous enough to allow Lopmon to digivolve, which he could've taken away permanently. I'd say he wasn't that bad a guy.
Also, both the Deva and the D-Reaper getting through were Steven Blum Yamaki's fault. And the D-Reaper would've destroyed the digiworld without both Yamaki and Zuquiaomon's actions. Note Zuquaiomon's actions were specifically to stop the D-Reaper. He didn't care for humans, but once he saw how they could help, did not stop them. He wasn't that blinded.
To this note, it's just a Crapsack World, as the show's creator decided to give a Big Bad that couldn't be stopped, only reset.
edited 11th Apr '12 3:22:48 PM by wanderlustwarrior
The sad, REAL American dichotomyI mean he's like the Digi-Kurata,
LOL, no. Zhuqiaomon's a prick, but he's nowhere near that bad!
No one could've predicted the D-Reaper would use Jeri
Yeah, when you get down to it, that was Jeri's own fault. Not that she deserved it or could help it, but still...
Also, both the Deva and the D-Reaper getting through were Steven Blum Yamaki's fault. And the D-Reaper would've destroyed the digiworld without both Yamaki and Zuquiaomon's actions.
Exactly this. I think the point was that the ultimate Big Bad of the series was the consequence for the ignorance of both the human and digimon antagonists. Also that despite its' condeming of human and digimon error, it's actually Not So Different from said error in its' nature (as Yamaki even points out) but lacks human and digimons strengths as well, which are what's ultimately able to bring it down in the end.
edited 11th Apr '12 4:45:04 PM by ManwiththePlan
Regarding 02:
With enough alternate interpretation,the end of Digimon Zero Two could actually be the darkest ending I mean think about it.
How do we know Malo Myotismon didn't just defeat them all by putting them in the Lotus-Eater Machine forever,how do we know that the whole ending isn't Davis' giant desire? It would explain why the hopes and dreams and not the digivolution to Serpahimon finished off Myotismon for good. It would explain why there is a Leomon that isn't dead,when the rest of the series doesn't have a Leomon at all. It would explain why all the children are clones
Then again
Maybe the real demise of Myotismon was just too traumatic for TK to truly want to rewrite,so he just made up this slop,and maybe Tai did get Sora but that depressed Matt too much,so TK did that as a gift
Regarding Tamers:
Okay maybe the Digi-Kurata thing was uncalled for,but he did send the Devas and I doubt Hynos created the first wormhole,sure Juggernaut did end up causing hell later,but I don't recall that having anything to with the other random Digimon.
If he didn't will humans destroyed,there'd be no reason for anything related to Impmon happen. Oh sure no one could've predicted what happened to Jeri to come from any of the actions taken,but really destroying her partner was a stupid idea.
On an off topic,why is this Azulongmon not like the 02 one? Sure they were both Mr. Exposition,but c'mon the 02 one had wit and a compelling voice. This one was kinda flat and kinda nerdy sounding. This is probably the only 02 did better than Tamers,other than including Richard Epcar.
Seriously no Richard Epcar? Really after that superlative work as Myotismon or Etemon? He totally could've been Zhuqiaomon,and Indramon sounds like him,...but it wasn't.
And finally a good question this should be interesting,admittedly done to death though,...
Which Leomon death is the most heroic? The most heartbraking?
edited 11th Apr '12 8:13:01 PM by terlwyth
Lol @ alternate endings.
Hypnos created the first wormhole big enough for the Devas to come through.
No one made Beelzemon kill Leomon, especially not Zhuquiaomon.
I don't recall Adventure leomon's death, but I'm pretty sure Tamers was the most heartbreaking and Adventure was the most heroic. As I've said before, if you knew Tamers' Leomon death was coming, there were clues all over the place that made it worse.
The sad, REAL American dichotomyThe original Leomon got killed by Etemon,he literally took a death blow to save Mimi. Unlike Jeri,this death forced Mimi out of a Heroic BSoD,it didn't do so much positive for Ogremon though,"You're a good rival" indeed.
I guess this one's overlooked because he died in the Anyone Can Die Dark Masters arc,and he wasn't even killed by a Dark Master.
Yeah I'd say the Tamers one is the most heartbraking,but not the most heroic,nor was it supposed to be,it was supposed to be pointless and accomplish nothing but despair. I still don't think it can rival Wizardmon or Black War Greymon though.
Bancho-Leomon is definitely the most-heroic,and if it weren't for the Deus ex Machina in the last episode,it would've been the most heartbraking. Seriously losing your mentor figure and father who you'd been searching for ten years,and being forced to do it yourself,for an invincible God? But still very heroic
But really Impmon could only be Beelzemon if he agreed to the Deal with the Devil,which wouldn't have been necessary if humans weren't a target. Like I said it's very indirect,but it's there,sort of like how some Digimon blame Keenan's arrival as a baby for the Digi-genocide. Even though he was just a baby and had no control,Kurata still never would've come.
Who is this Kurata?
I hate. Those new characters. So much.
Especially Cody and his partner, but especially Davis and his partner.
BWG, however, is cool.
edited 12th Apr '12 8:30:16 AM by wanderlustwarrior
The sad, REAL American dichotomy

Tea kettle?