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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jul 13th 2011 at 5:16:56 AM

No, I'm not going to call it Mission Impossible- Ghost Protocol. This is not a Tom Clancy novel, I'm sick of the stupid subtitles, Hollywood!

But aside from that, I recently discovered it was going to exist. Also, props for blowing up the actual Kremlin and not St Basil's Cathedral. The presence of our favourite morally ambiguous robot made me think it was going to be directed by J.J. Abrams who directed the third movie but low and behold it is in fact under the direction of Brad Bird.

SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Jul 13th 2011 at 8:16:11 AM

The fact that it has Brad Bird at the helm is a large part of the reason I'm planning to see this when it comes out.

CommanderObvious intellectual rapist from Unmei no Itaru Basho Since: Jul, 2011
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#3: Jul 13th 2011 at 8:22:23 AM

oh god the trailer gave me headaches with that repetitive fading ins

it looks silly enough to be watched so ill put that in my list for need to watch movies

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#4: Jul 13th 2011 at 10:34:53 AM

I'm still miffed about the rumor that he has abandoned animation completely. But I still want to see this!

SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Jul 14th 2011 at 9:01:21 AM

Brad Bird? Abandoning Animation entirely? Forever?

I don't buy it!

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#6: Jul 14th 2011 at 9:02:20 AM

[up]Yeah, say it ain't so! Say it ain't so!

Playedforkeeps Since: Oct, 2010
#7: Jul 14th 2011 at 9:12:40 AM

[up]Last I heard, he didn't leave the animation field. He wanted to try something new with live-action. He will return to the animation field with an Incredibles sequel.

DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Dec 21st 2011 at 5:09:06 PM

I saw it. It was enjoyable. However, the real reason I am bumping this thread is that the film has a reference to A113, the original (Character?) Animation classroom at Cal Arts. Even in Live Action, Brad Bird is not forgetting his roots.

JRPictures Since: Nov, 2010
#9: Dec 22nd 2011 at 3:00:15 AM

I've been meaning to see this since Brad Bird came on board.

I just need to see the third film.

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#10: Dec 22nd 2011 at 3:14:31 AM

Looks good. Too bad Paramount basically dumped The Adventures Of Tintin to release it.

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audrey from Brazil Since: Dec, 2009
#11: Dec 22nd 2011 at 7:59:20 AM

Isn't Tom Cruise a litte bit too old for this movie?

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SpaceJawa UTINNI! from Right Here Since: Jan, 2001
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#12: Dec 23rd 2011 at 9:56:56 PM

[up] Nope. Not at all. It's actually kind of hard to have watch the movie and then come back and think "wow, how old is Tom, anyway?"

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#13: Dec 25th 2011 at 6:49:35 AM

Just watched it today.

Freaking awesome.

A bit too cartoony though, but I don't mind it.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Dec 27th 2011 at 1:00:32 AM

Just watched it. It follows a lot of the basic action movie tropes to the letter, but everything was very competently done and lampshaded some of the excessiveness ("Mission Accomplished!!!"). The only complaint is that the villain in this movie seemed like he could have been pretty good but he wasn't really memorable because he had so few scenes. For good or bad, the Mission Impossible movies had some fairly strong villains (even 2, if only for the "Evil Counterpart to Ethan" nature). Personally, while a solid movie I think a lot of critics may be going a little light on it because everyone loves Brad Bird.

The big plus is that the focus was so tight on the IMF team that they all were memorable and it didn't feel as tacked on as in 3 (while a nice attempt, the car bonding scene felt like "Here is our character building moment"). For the first time the movie wasn't really about Ethan, it was about the mission and what the team can do. The previous movies were more about Ethan being supported by the team, not the team working together to accomplish a goal. Ethan had his story, but so did Carter, Benji, and Brant.

And before we went to the movie my Dad said that while he liked all of the films he said he was sad they didn't go with one of the main themes of the original TV series, that if they did their job right no one knew they were there. He really liked that the end of the movie had a bunch of news reports with no idea of what actually happened.

edited 27th Dec '11 1:06:26 AM by KJMackley

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#15: Dec 27th 2011 at 1:20:33 AM

@ Audrey: Tom Cruise is ageless. He could be 70 and he'd still look the part.

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willyolio Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Dec 27th 2011 at 4:49:27 PM

definitely a better film as far as non-Ethan character building, but there was one Big-Lipped Alligator Moment for me as far as gadgetry goes- the magnetic suit thing.

there were plenty of other devices they could have used, but it crossed the line from "really cool and interesting spy gadget" (like the eye-tracking wall projector thing) to "forget you ever learned kindergarten science!"

So here's a guy wearing a magnetic suit hovering above a magnetic robot. Sure. With giant metal fan blades between them. Derp. Going into a computer room. Double derp. Where you can see visibly metallic grates between the agent and the robot. Triple derp.

were they really that desperate to recreate the hover scene from the first MI?

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#17: Dec 28th 2011 at 4:26:38 AM

Yeah, that was the most nonsensical technology in the film. So ridiculous that it broke my WSOD.

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#18: Dec 31st 2011 at 10:00:15 AM

Uh...it was non ferrous metal...and uh, magnetic proof electronics! Yeah, that could have been done better and so could the wall crawling.

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#19: Dec 31st 2011 at 10:45:08 AM

[up] The wall-crawling was my favorite action sequence...

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#20: Dec 31st 2011 at 10:56:03 AM

Exiting, yes, though some suction cups and water would have saved him a lot of trouble, I guess any method could have had its own problems but electronics based on wrist movement seemed needlessly complex.

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willyolio Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Dec 31st 2011 at 12:53:37 PM

i also had another problem with the other computer scene. so, at the very end, the bad guy flees and in the process rips away hundreds of cables (mostly network cables) out of their sockets, damaging a good bunch of them in the process. ok, it might be a bit of a leap here, but i was assuming that most of them needed to be fixed in order to get the uplink to the satellite working again. Benji is even seen attempting to rewire individual damaged cables at some point.

then he just gives up and says, "Here, jam these two thingys in this and as long as the power's on everything's fine."

...so none of that actually mattered? what? i don't think it even qualifies as Hollywood Hacking because in there, characters are at least doing things that matter in their version of "hacking." here, it looked like the bad guy did nothing to the computers, Benji wasted ten minutes fixing nothing at all, and then everything works anyways.

edited 31st Dec '11 12:55:51 PM by willyolio

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#22: Dec 31st 2011 at 4:05:10 PM

There's actually a pretty logical explanation: The bad guy didn't know what would happen when he ripped out the cables, since he was trying to get out of there fast.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Dec 31st 2011 at 4:47:09 PM

The guy did a lot of damage but a lot of wires and systems in a server that massive are redundant and probably not related to the specific task they were try to accomplish. Benji would be tech-savvy enough to make the necessary repairs with reimplanting the drives being the last step, not the only step. As for doing it all in the space of a few minutes that would be unlikely, but the time needed to do something in movies in general are always dependant on what is most dramatic.

As for the glue gloves, the main advantage to them is that it saves your grip strength, instead you can focus all your effort on the climb that wouldn't be there with the magnetic or suction cups they had used before. The fact they malfunctioned is secondary to the point of Ethan being willing to use them for such a climb when he was just instructed on how to use them in the first place.

edited 31st Dec '11 4:47:48 PM by KJMackley

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#24: Dec 31st 2011 at 6:06:34 PM

As a vertigo sufferer, the scenes on the world's tallest building freaked me the Hell out. Some of the scariest shots I've seen in a while, so a good thing I didn't see it in Imax (even looking at high heights on film sets it off).

Still, the film was exactly what I expected and wanted - mindless, pointless, brainless tosh that made no sense whatsoever but nonetheless was an enjoyable action film with enough characterisation for the main characters and good use of comic relief. As with Fast Five, this was another that did not deviate from expectations, which I mean in a good way.

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willyolio Since: Jan, 2001
#25: Jan 1st 2012 at 3:31:15 PM

[up][up]still doesn't explain why he was attempting to repair a certain cable, and then gives up in the middle of it to check on the power.

edited 1st Jan '12 3:31:45 PM by willyolio


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