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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#10976: May 9th 2015 at 12:31:59 PM

I'd probably suggest Killing Curse be off limits, especially because Harry has never actually used it on a person, from what I recall. Plus, he has never apparate-spammed in combat or at all. However, I'd probably allow him to start with his broom, or at least capable of going "Accio Broom", because even if it's not always on hand for him, he did summon it from outside of his on-hand equipment in the Triwizard Tournament.

I recall Ed transmuting the ground into a giant cannon in his fight with Mustang. Of course, he didn't get to use it, as Mustang blew it up while Ed was busy being agitated.

I still want to see this fight. Battle for the Philosopher's Stone. Science vs. Magic.

edited 9th May '15 2:00:56 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#10977: May 9th 2015 at 12:39:49 PM

He has, though he more often goes for the tactic of transmuting the floor into fists or angry faces flying at his enemy. That or blades made out of nearby metal or his automail arm.

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10978: May 9th 2015 at 3:04:44 PM

I'm positive almost any fictional character can beat a HP wizard in a fight to the death. (sans possibly Dumbledore, Voldemort, and Lucius Malfoy)

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#10979: May 9th 2015 at 3:33:52 PM

Lucius? HA. He wasn't even the second best Death Eater. Of course he pales to other wizards.

I really think you're underrating Harry Potter characters, though. Remember, it was deemed unusual that something like a car crash would be capable of killing Harry's parents, and they weren't really all that exceptional.

As for the non-lethality of the average spell seen, consider this: Body Bind Curse. Any of the fire spells. gg.

edited 9th May '15 3:34:27 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10980: May 9th 2015 at 3:46:13 PM

[up]I remember someone saying that Rowling said that a muggle with a shotgun could kill a wizard from the HP universe.

Of course I'd underrate the HP cast, I don't like Harry Potter too much.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#10981: May 9th 2015 at 3:46:57 PM

I think that quote is missatributed to Rowling.

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#10982: May 9th 2015 at 4:06:16 PM

Oh yeah, the broom would definitely be an advantage for Harry. He'd have to know he'd need it, though, and by then it might be too late.

[up][up] I've seen plenty of fans saying that, but never heard of Rowling saying it. It would be dumb if it were true, anyway, if 12 year old Hermione can enchant a pair of glasses so that it reflect water, I'm sure a more capable wizard would be able to come up with a protective spell that reflects metals (that is, if one of the Protego spells doesn't do it already).

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#10983: May 9th 2015 at 4:07:52 PM

[up]So, any good opponents for Frieza?

Are we using Shiny Gold Frieza? [lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
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#10984: May 9th 2015 at 4:15:57 PM

If I recall correctly, if Harry isn't completely surprised by a battle, he tends to have his broom around, or be within summoning range. I'd feel comfortable giving it to him.

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#10985: May 9th 2015 at 4:39:46 PM

[up][up][up] Yes, because HP wizards have the faster than sound reflexes needed to block bullets.

edited 9th May '15 4:40:39 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#10986: May 9th 2015 at 4:50:07 PM

Jedi vs shotgun.

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#10987: May 9th 2015 at 7:34:26 PM

Jedi vs a sub-machinegun on auto.

If a chicken crosses the road and nobody else is around to see it, does the road move beneath the chicken instead?
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#10988: May 10th 2015 at 2:07:42 AM

[up]seeing as jedis block full auto blasters....

(Also EU used to confirm bullet using guns exist and jedis can indeed block those)

Yes, because HP wizards have the faster than sound reflexes needed to block bullets.

They dont need to? They just need to cast Protego before the opponent gets the first shot off and at this point they are immune to bullets as the charm covers physical attacks too.

And seeing a shotgun coming isn't hard. They aren't small.

Of course non-muggle born wizards don't know what a gun is.

edited 10th May '15 2:15:02 AM by Ghilz

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10989: May 10th 2015 at 3:14:00 AM

Note that with nonverbal casting a spell fired just as quickly as a regular gun, and Avada Kedavra at least is definitely about as fast as a bullet.

To say that an average wizard in Harry Potter could be offed by a regular Muggle with a gun is not to say that wizards are fodder that would be easily mopped up by Muggles who know what they're doing (which people tend to misinterpret that as), it's to say that wizards aren't in any way inherently superior and are ultimately as human as Muggles.

Wizards do have a lot of weak points in how they operate that would make prolonged conflict against Muggles very bad for them (in particular, they rely on certain things Muggles have little issue circumventing), but I would still tip the average Muggle with a gun vs the average wizard with a wand as in the wizard's favor.

edited 10th May '15 3:18:35 AM by KnownUnknown

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#10990: May 10th 2015 at 5:27:41 PM

[up],[up][up] Yup, pretty much. A wand is like a handgun with more versatile powers. As long as the wizard knows what firearms are, he can Protego himself at any point before the shotgun fires.

Regarding a conflict between Muggle and Wizards, the latter do have an intel advantage over the former, at least. It would be easier for wizards to dismantle Muggle technology than for the muggles to exploit wizarding weaknesses. And there's the fact that wizards are really good at concealing themselves (don't they have a large-scale spell that causes Muggles to make decisions that would prevent them from finding Hogwarts? They mention this during the Quidditch World Cup)

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#10991: May 10th 2015 at 9:48:55 PM

You know, I still want to see them do something with either Kamen Rider or Power Rangers (not just Tommy on his own, but a whole team).

The former is somewhat unlikely, but Segata Sanshiro (who, lets remember, is a fucking Kamen Rider got in, and he's pretty obscure outside of Japan.

They are pretty well known on the Internet as a whole, so it might work.

[down]Edit: My mistake. I meant to say that Kamen Rider is unlikely. Outside of two english adaptations, it's not really as well known in the west except to die hard fans.

edited 11th May '15 6:15:29 AM by HandsomeRob

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#10992: May 11th 2015 at 12:03:13 AM

[up] Power Rangers was very popular in the West during the 90's...

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#10993: May 11th 2015 at 3:51:26 AM

Megazord vs Voltron is a popular choice. Not sure if it would be balanced (I'm guessing Voltron must be stronger?), but it would be fun.

As for a team battle... the tricky part is finding a team that's in the same power tier. Sailor Senshi, Bronze Saints, Ginyu Force... they're all thematically appropriate, but way too powerful for the rangers, who are essentially 5-6 Captain Americas.

Maybe the Big Bad Beetleborgs?

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10994: May 11th 2015 at 7:48:15 AM

We need to have Ultron vs. Brainiac.

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EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#10995: May 11th 2015 at 10:22:48 AM

And for OMM, bring on the speed demons!

edited 11th May '15 10:26:38 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#10996: May 11th 2015 at 10:34:05 AM

Fan as I am of both characters, The Flash should be way outside of Sonic's Super Weight class.

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#10997: May 11th 2015 at 10:59:19 AM

I'm sorry... I don't like that fight, at all.

This is like the only time I ever disliked something from One Minute Melee :/ I wrote a rant in the reviews section even...

I'm sorry... sad

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10998: May 11th 2015 at 11:05:02 AM

[up][up] He should, but one could handwave it by assuming that he simply got caught by surprise when Sonic pulled out his Super Mode, before he could draw upon more of the Speed Force than he normally does. I mean, this is the guy who in Justice League could get killed by Luthor using a mere shotgun, implying that he can be beaten down until he's helpless if you don't leave him any chance to realize that he needs to take off the kiddy gloves now.

Compare that to Brainiac!Luthor in the same source, who was arrogant enough that he pretty much spared the Flash (for the time being, that is) in favor of focusing on rebuilding his destroyed Doomsday Device after demonstrating apparent invincibility against the whole Justice League, only to be shown how big of an error he did when the aforementioned Justice Leaguer came back to superspeed-clothesline him a few seconds later... from the opposite direction. And again. And again. With increasingly super-huge leaps in superspeed. Until he pretty much became an embodiment of the Speed Force and ripped Brainaic out of his body, one molecule at a time.

See, Flash is only that overpowered when you give him a reason as well as a chance to do so. The latter was lacking in this OMM's case.

edited 11th May '15 11:06:16 AM by MarqFJA

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qtjinla15 Since: Dec, 2010
#10999: May 11th 2015 at 11:19:39 AM

I like how everyone wants to ignore the Comics version of Sonic. People, if you're going to reference the feats of one characters across their history you don't get to pick and choose for their opponent one source of media. How does that present a fair argument?

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#11000: May 11th 2015 at 11:23:19 AM

The walking deux ex machina?

No seriously, Eggman said he was Chaos energy, and cannot be beaten, or something.

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