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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10951: May 8th 2015 at 4:15:31 PM

What about Doomsday vs. Frieza?

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#10952: May 8th 2015 at 4:54:42 PM

Mongul was stronger, but I don't recall him having any speed or other powers to beat with. I don't think he could even fly.

Doomsday is also arguably stronger than Superman, and has other adaptations that make him near impossible to put down. Doomsday vs. Hulk, however... Just how much brute force could be done before one gives up?

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#10953: May 8th 2015 at 4:55:14 PM

Full power Hulk from Pak's run just stomps Doomsday into oblivion.

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#10954: May 8th 2015 at 4:56:37 PM

I've suggested Doomsday vs Hulk a few times.

I think the Hulk could take it, since he'd keep getting Angry enough to get strong enough to kill the big D, and while the latter might evolve to grow stronger, he'd still be dead before he could do that, thus making Hulk the winner, and the Hulk would still just get angrier anyway.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10955: May 8th 2015 at 5:03:31 PM

Also, there's the issue of whether Doomsday being rendered so incapacitated as to be effectively dead (but still able to regenerate eventually, given a length of time) would count as a win for Hulk - a la Thor defeating Raiden.

edited 8th May '15 5:05:30 PM by KnownUnknown

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#10956: May 8th 2015 at 6:33:16 PM

You know, maybe just a battle of the angry muscle heads.

Doomsday vs. Hulk vs. Broly vs. Asura

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#10957: May 8th 2015 at 6:34:00 PM

I wholly approve of this battle, as Broly would swiftly be reduced to paste.

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#10958: May 8th 2015 at 6:46:33 PM

Doomsday would be reduced to bones the fastest.

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#10959: May 8th 2015 at 6:48:14 PM

Goku beat Broly, Doomsday beat Superman.

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#10960: May 8th 2015 at 6:54:14 PM

Recently Superman ripped Doomsday in half. Literally.

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#10961: May 8th 2015 at 7:02:25 PM

@powerpuffbats

Doomsday, even at his weakest, disassembles Frieza.

@wanderlustwarrior

Mongul I was never stated to have superspeed, however, he was agile enough and fast enough to keep up with an enraged Pre-Crisis Superman who was cutting loose all restraint. That indicates that he has to possess a level of superspeed, and a high level at that.

RE: Doomsday vs the Hulk

Going to go against the grain and bet on Doomsday. If you can fight Superman to a Mutual Kill, you can kill the Hulk, who isn't as strong as Superman.

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#10962: May 8th 2015 at 8:54:49 PM

Hulk has no upper limit on his strength though. He's just vaguely defined as "the angrier he gets, the stronger he gets", until he's the one of the strongest things in the universe. No idea how much work it takes to get there.

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#10963: May 8th 2015 at 9:51:34 PM

[up] Thing is Hulks peak anger tends to involve outside elements - loved ones being threatened; family killed; shit like that. Hulk doesn't reach "peak anger" just fighting someone in an arena / db-style fight. Coz if he did he'd have never lost a fight. In the context of a Deathbattle, there's nothing to drive the Hulk to such levels of anger because those are exceptional events.

I'd also add that Roger Stern, one of the guys who wrote the Hulk, mentioned that as far as he's concerned, in pure physical strength, yes, Hulk is outmatched by Superman. Heck, scratch by head as I might, I have trouble thinking of feats the Hulk did that compare or surpass Superman;s. Lifting a mountain Secret Wars? Superman moved planets. Punching a hole in Onslaught's armor? That's impressive but we don't really have numbers on how durable that is.

EDIT: Actually I'll give him the time he held a planet from cracking (Though I have to ask how the bits he was holding didn't simply break off but hey, dumb comic physics).

Heck, Hulk has been beaten by both Namor and The Thing. So unlimited strength and durability? In theory. Not in practice.

edited 8th May '15 10:08:06 PM by Ghilz

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#10964: May 9th 2015 at 4:00:37 AM

I think Marvel even had Hulk fail to move Superman an inch with his punch in an old crossover. I think we have that panel as a page image somewhere even.

Edit: Yep.

edited 9th May '15 4:03:50 AM by LordofLore

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#10965: May 9th 2015 at 4:07:16 AM

[up] The old crossover was based on Popularity, though. Modern World War Hulk would actually be a good match for Supes.

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#10966: May 9th 2015 at 4:10:03 AM

The version that fought the way-less-powerful-than-Superman-that-he's-a-expy-of Sentry evenly? The Sentry that later died from having a helicarrier dropped on him and a few blasts of lightning from Thor?

edited 9th May '15 4:13:40 AM by LordofLore

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#10967: May 9th 2015 at 4:14:27 AM

Also the version of the hulk that could of destroyed the planet just by stepping really hard.

Also, Sentry at his most powerful destroyed Asgard, forced a 10 times as strong Thro to his knees just by pressing down on his arm, stalemated galactus and his Void persona is possibly stronger then Scarlet Witchs reality warping?

edited 9th May '15 4:40:24 AM by Demongodofchaos2

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#10968: May 9th 2015 at 6:06:56 AM

[up]Superman can do that normally. Destroy planets, that is. Seriously, the only characters at Marvel who can genuinely threaten him if he's not holding back are a couple of the cosmic level characters.

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#10969: May 9th 2015 at 6:19:05 AM

The old crossover was based on Popularity, though

Wasn't this one the one that was based on popularity?

I believe that would be this fight. The one Lordoflore linked to seems to be your normal run-of-the-mill crossover.

edited 9th May '15 6:19:56 AM by KnownUnknown

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#10970: May 9th 2015 at 7:26:14 AM

Isn't Sentry's power level also Depending on the Author dependant on his mood?

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#10971: May 9th 2015 at 8:07:15 AM

Didn't that old crossover involve pre-crisis Superman, who made up powers whenever he wanted?

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#10972: May 9th 2015 at 11:21:34 AM

Again, any thoughts on who would win, Harry Potter vs Edward Elric, the Fullmetal Alchemist?

Ed generally fights unarmed, so there wouldn't be any need to go through the Disarming Spell BS they gave to Luke Skywalker. If Ed gets close, he's a very talented hand to hand combatant. At a range, Harry probably has much more variety in abilities.

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#10973: May 9th 2015 at 12:12:33 PM

Harry once evaded the Killing Curse by ducking behind a tombstone. Could Ed block it with his automail?

Or, failing that, erecting a stone slab out of the floor with alchemy?

edited 9th May '15 12:12:58 PM by Enlong

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#10974: May 9th 2015 at 12:16:43 PM

[up][up] Harry's spells can be dodged, and I think Ed would be agile enough to do it. He could even get close enough to Harry to skewer him in spikes. But Harry can apparate, and that could be enough to fire off a close-range Avada Kedavra.

It's really a question of whether Harry would think to do this before Ed has a chance kill him. I'm leaning towards Ed winning, personally.

edited 9th May '15 12:16:52 PM by JonnasN

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#10975: May 9th 2015 at 12:17:49 PM

Ed doesn't necessarily need to get close to attack. There's always the option of using alchemy to turn the ground into snares or fists and such at his opponent's location.

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