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Apparently Anna isn't either.
Anna is the better character even. But she is overshadowed by her sister and her boyfriend Spiderman
Does Aurora get an over-eager suitor with a heart seeking magic sword to fight on her behalf?
Edited by Zeromaeus on Aug 20th 2019 at 8:38:32 AM
she sleeps through it
Since we've had the Disney Princess debate in the past, I'd like to raise a different idea of the same vein: villains of Disney princess movies. So you'd have the Evil Queen, Lady Tremaine, Maleficent, Ursula, Gaston, Jafar, Ratcliffe, Shan-Yu, Dr. Facilier, Mother Gothel, Mor'du, and (the most traditional of the Moana villains) Tamatoa.
Entrapta vs Rapunzel solely because of using their hair as a weapon
If Lady Tremaine gets the Fairy Godmother's wand, that makes her incredibly broken because she can use time travel and the like. I haven't seen Cinderella III, so I'm not sure if she used offensive spells during the course of that movie. If not, her biggest problem is actually hurting her competition.
You can have all the time in the world, but if you can't put your opponents down, then it's game over.
Ratcliffe would be the first to fall, since he has no powers or combat skills. I don't even think he wielded a gun in the film, but I could be wrong. Jafar is by far the most powerful in his genie form, but he's hindered in that he can't directly kill his opponents and is somewhat limited by whoever owns his lamp. He can probably think of ways to screw over the others, but if his lamp's destroyed, it's game over.
I think Ursula and Maleficent might have a fair shot, as they're both incredibly powerful and don't have obvious limitations in their powers. They're both vulnerable to stabbing however.
Maleficent was only killed when the Sword of Truth had an anti-evil enchantment layered onto it, though. Jafar lost his genie powers after his death, too, as seen in the crossover with Disney's Hercules.
Mor'du eats Gaston for karma.
Tamatoa tries to steal the Trident from Ursula and either gets controlled or zapped.
Ratcliffe tries to kill Dr. Facilier and/or Shan-Yu out of racism and gets killed.
Edited by Arawn999 on Aug 20th 2019 at 8:56:05 AM
I think y'all are overlooking Tamatoa a bit, since he would have probably killed Maui, a demigod, outright if he didn't get distracted.
Edited by Weirdguy149 on Aug 20th 2019 at 11:50:03 AM
Albeit a Maui who was Brought Down to Badass considering he was 1000 years out of practise with his divine fishhook. If Maui hadn't lost his mojo Tamatoa's Oh, Crap! expression and missing leg indicate that Curb-Stomp Battle would have gone in the other direction.
And the Trident or Jafar's snake staff would likely provide ample distractions. RIP Ursula and Jafar, victims of Tamatoa's "seafood" diet.
Edited by Arawn999 on Aug 20th 2019 at 9:00:40 AM
If we're doing a Death Battle free for all with Disney Princess villains, then we're probably featuring the villains at their strongest (as Death Battle does), in which case Mr. "Juggles Planets For Fun" Jafar wins.
Technically, Jafar can't kill you directly. But he can put you in a position that will absolutely kill you and then choose not to get you out of it, like when he teleported Abis Mal to the bottom of the ocean. If he, say, opens things by zapping everyone to the moon the match is over.
You'd be wrong. While he's a fop who'd rather not do the work himself, Radcliffe is good with a gun and is, iirc, implied to be a relatively crack shot.
Of all the princess movie villains, the weakest power-wise is probably Hans. Followed by Gaston, if we're not including Frozen. Though even so, Gaston is definitely a crack shot with a gun (and a bow and arrow, though he'd probably be using the gun).
Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 20th 2019 at 10:25:54 AM
I think I'd bank on Hans or Gaston over Ratcliffe, personally.
As noted, Gaston is a crack shot. He's a muscle-bound small-town ultra-badass who excels in a variety of combat forms and is totally willing to fight dirty.
Hans doesn't get very many options to demonstrate his combat skills. However, in what little we do see of them, we see that he's proficient with a sword and crossbow, and that he also has a very clever and cunning mind for mid-fight problem-solving.
When confronted with Marshmallow at Elsa's front gate, Hans manages to put the beast off-balance and send it hurtling down a cliff into seeming oblivion. He straight up beats Marshmallow through guile and skill.
Then, after recognizing how outgunned he and his men are, Hans manages to take down Elsa with a trick shot that brings her own chandelier down on her head, once again demonstrating his skill and guile in place of raw power.
Hans doesn't hold a candle to the likes of Jafar or Maleficent. But as the ordinary human combatants go, he definitely puts on a more impressive performance than Ratcliffe ever does and could probably give Gaston at least a run for his money.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 20th 2019 at 11:38:30 AM
Hans would probably still last into the final three since he knows he'd be outgunned and he'd hide under a rock or something. Mother Gothel's probably like at least a level 10 rogue.
I'm wondering if Maleficient (Or Ursula) can overcome Tremaine and Jafar. Both Tremaine and Jafar have major Reality Warper power on their side but major caveats; Jafar can't kill directly and Tremaine is a complete tyro with magic. Those are weaknesses that a skilled sorceress can exploit ruthlessly.
Edited by qwigly on Aug 20th 2019 at 10:51:36 AM
Nah, the weakest Disney villain would be Edgar.
Who would be immediately killed by Ratigan, to complete the humiliation.
Edited by Nightwire on Aug 20th 2019 at 10:55:21 AM
With all this talk of Disney villains and princesses free for all, I wonder how a battle of Disney princes would go.
I think even Edgar could kill a rat. Remember, Ratigan keeps a cat as his big scary monster - what on earth is he going to do to Edgar?
I think that the weakest Disney villain would be Sid. All of the adults are bigger than him, so he's got nothing going for him there, and a talking animal is going to freak him out.
I feel like the 8 foot tall bear-wolf-gorilla has a few advantages here.
Edited by qwigly on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:49:30 PM
Edited by qwigly on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:56:10 PM
Question: are we including all Disney villains, or just the most iconic ones? If it's the former, I think it would be a mistake to leave out Gantu, who's a massive hulk of an alien with lots of high tech weaponry. And then there's The Horned King, who has an undead army. I also think that Madam Mim would last decently long in the battle with all her magical shenanigans.
I'd throw Chernabog from Fantasia in there, but he has no quantifiable feats, so...
As an aside, one moment I'd love to see in the battle is a three-way big cat standoff between Scar, Shere Khan and Sabor.
Edited by TyeDyeWildebeest on Aug 21st 2019 at 11:01:57 AM
Heís good at football but weak to football
The original idea what villains from the Disney princess movies (in contrast to the Disney princess free for all).
If we include all the Disney villains, the winner is probably still Jafar. Maybe Tekka, since she's a corrupted god. Hades might be strong as well, but we never see him do anything himself besides shoot fire around.
Provided Aladdin doesn't get the Genie, it falls down to The Beast vs Philip.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 21st 2019 at 8:25:01 AM
Hmm, we have a bunch of Disney villains who are just guys with guns: Gaston, Amos Slade, Clayton, Ratcliffe, Mc Leach,...
Huh, so the Dragonzord is bigger than Kiryu...
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