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Ghilz Fight It Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Fight It Out!
May 22nd 2019 at 6:12:46 PM

Oh well if Fanon says it I'm settled. A game in a different franchise only sweatens the deal.

HandsomeRob Completely trustworthy from The world that never was Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Completely trustworthy
May 22nd 2019 at 6:16:48 PM

You've seen lets plays of the game right, Rob? How did you not know that already?

That was a long ass time ago! Persona 3 came out in like 2009 didn't it?

I admit, I was running off how I thought the advanced Personas worked in 4 and 5, where I think most of them do lose their weaknesses.

Everyone is XEHANORT
fasoman1996 Sup from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Sup
May 22nd 2019 at 6:32:02 PM

When was the last time a fight result was this contested?

Tracer vs Scout?

Chillin' rat.
MJTrooper The Neutral One from California
The Neutral One
May 22nd 2019 at 6:32:31 PM

At around 5:00 of that video I posted back on page 1648, it showed someone trying to cut off Ben's arm with a hard light construct and failing, showing that even amputating the arm won't work. Would the Green Lantern Ring be strong enough to break through the Omnitrix's defenses? That's what I want to know.

Edited by MJTrooper on May 22nd 2019 at 6:35:49 AM

Personally, I'd prefer if the 'net was a little friendlier, but you know the GIFT...
slimcoder I am not your boss. I am your KING!
I am not your boss. I am your KING!
May 22nd 2019 at 6:35:24 PM

Probably yeah.

I AM THE DRAGON!!!!
May 22nd 2019 at 6:41:40 PM

[up][up] Looking at the actual episode, the guy didnít cut his hand off. He hit the omnitrix itself with his energy axe which seemed to glitch things out, which included teleporting Ben. Pretty different then just having his arm cut off.

FlutterFire Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings from the Dragon Lands Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings
May 22nd 2019 at 6:42:43 PM

He was able to beat fight Krona while Krona had Ion, the embodiment of all willpower in the universe with his own willpower.

They can pummel Superman.

He stabbed reality warper Mandrakk

I'm going to say yes.

Edited by FlutterFire on May 22nd 2019 at 8:44:26 AM

Is this another part of pony friendship? Telling each other what you learned all the time?
May 22nd 2019 at 6:53:38 PM

Spirit Drain might be able to take away Weiss's aura.

In RWBY, Aura serves the role of HP, not MP, so Spirit Drain probably wouldn't work there.

May 22nd 2019 at 6:59:24 PM

Anyone remember what happens in Persona if you spirit drain an opponent wss ith no magic left? Do you still get something?

MJTrooper The Neutral One from California
The Neutral One
May 22nd 2019 at 6:59:32 PM

I'll concede that the Green Lantern Ring could overpower the Omnitrix's defenses since the Omnitrix can create a universe destroying explosion while the Green Lantern Ring apparently has multiverse level power, and I don't recall a moment in the series where the Omnitrix automatically transformed Ben to save him from a non-lethal attack like amputation. There was also one episode where Vilgax used a special machine to forcefully remove the Omnitrix from Ben without cutting off his arm, and if the Green Lantern Ring can do anything, then it could just remove the Omnitrix itself.

I still think they could've found a better way to end the fight that would've caused far less backlash. If they really believe Green Lantern is more powerful than Alien X, they should've just showed it so there was no room for complaints. It certainly wouldn't have been as anticlimactic.

Edited by MJTrooper on May 22nd 2019 at 7:04:58 AM

Personally, I'd prefer if the 'net was a little friendlier, but you know the GIFT...
FlutterFire Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings from the Dragon Lands Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings
May 22nd 2019 at 7:13:38 PM

Yes, I agree. The majority of complaints seem to come from seeing the fight animation and thinking Hal only won because he went back in time to when Ben wasn't Alien X, suggesting that Hal can't beat Alien X straight up, which he most likely could. And it leads to a bunch of "What about the failsafe" comments.

Hell, the part about the Omnitrix having nothing for amputation in the info tab at 20:20 in the video.

Is this another part of pony friendship? Telling each other what you learned all the time?
MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
May 22nd 2019 at 9:36:11 PM

... Are there still people hating on RWBY just because of Yang beating Tifa? I forget if there's even a credible argument for the research for that matchup being sufficiently flawed to delegitimize the presented verdict.

In RWBY, Aura serves the role of HP, not MP, so Spirit Drain probably wouldn't work there.
Actually, it's the other way around, with the caveat that MP can be used as a "shield" to nullify/reduce HP damage until it's depleted.

When we are crushing the black hearts of our oppressors, we will find our hands blackened.
FlutterFire Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings from the Dragon Lands Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings
May 22nd 2019 at 9:52:39 PM

There is literally one person that's been so mad about Yang vs. Tifa they've been commissioning guro art of RWBY characters because of it.

Granted, I believe that person doesn't represent the Final Fantasy fandom as a whole, but still.

Is this another part of pony friendship? Telling each other what you learned all the time?
Kosjurake The Wildest of Ronins from Tokyo LOCCENT Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
The Wildest of Ronins
May 22nd 2019 at 9:59:00 PM

...you know what. I don't want any further info on that. I was going to ask after the entire going what the fuck, but nope. Just leaving it there. Try to forget about it if I can.

[up][up]Its been a while since I've watched Tifa vs Yang so this might be inaccurate, but like the biggest thing I can point to is the fact that it came off like they were treating Aura as damage reduction or somesort of threshold to overcome, when its very clearly established (especially in volume 3) that its ablative. It gets worn down, and pretty damn easily if V3 is any indication. Which yes came out after the DB, but that lowkey makes it worse? I dunno.

The other thing is I think they lowballed Tifa's strength significantly, but that's not entirely their fault given the fact the most usable data came from Advent Children and Tifa was explicitly weaker in AC then during the end of FF7 proper. But I don't really have support for this second point beyond gut feeling of Tifa can suplex kaiju she has got to be stronger then the mecha suit that punched Yang.

Edited by Kosjurake on May 22nd 2019 at 1:01:03 PM

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ShirowShirow Gated Tail from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Gated Tail
May 22nd 2019 at 10:30:47 PM

Honestly Tifa stood no chance against Yang if she lost to Loz, ultimately.

But people gonna get angry when their waifu gets destroyed.

Bleye knows Sabers.
ManlyPlant Trouble Man from A dimly lit arcade Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Trouble Man
May 22nd 2019 at 10:45:54 PM

The only one that bothers me is Scout vs Tracer to be honest. If they were going with her winning I would've said superior tech and all that. But what they gave her amounted to pretty much aimdodging and massive downplaying of Scout's durability. Something something point of impact.

That and the animation kinda disappointed me I suppose. Can't be too mad about that though as animation is hard work.

Nobody'll expect me to do 3 Shadow Blades in a row. That would be crazy.
slimcoder I am not your boss. I am your KING!
I am not your boss. I am your KING!
May 22nd 2019 at 10:47:12 PM

Never gonna watch Gaara vs Toph, don't buy it.

I AM THE DRAGON!!!!
ShirowShirow Gated Tail from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Gated Tail
May 22nd 2019 at 10:55:31 PM

Listen fighting Toph with sand as your shield is like fighting Magneto while wearing full plate armor.

Bleye knows Sabers.
FlutterFire Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings from the Dragon Lands Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Ugh, please don't make me talk about my feelings
May 22nd 2019 at 10:57:34 PM

Still mad about Bowser vs. Ganon, personally.

Fucking superlava bullshit.

Is this another part of pony friendship? Telling each other what you learned all the time?
ManlyPlant Trouble Man from A dimly lit arcade Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Trouble Man
May 22nd 2019 at 10:59:17 PM

You know gonna be completely honest. Forgot about Bowser vs Ganon entirely. That was such a bizarre one.

Nobody'll expect me to do 3 Shadow Blades in a row. That would be crazy.
slimcoder I am not your boss. I am your KING!
I am not your boss. I am your KING!
May 22nd 2019 at 11:00:30 PM

[up][up][up] But isn't the guy wearing full plate armor also Magneto?

Plus I'm pretty sure Toph can't control gold. The woman has a stuff time controlling sand as it is & she can only manipulate metal in direct proximity to it.

She can't wrestle Gaara's sand away from him.

Edited by slimcoder on May 22nd 2019 at 11:02:57 AM

I AM THE DRAGON!!!!
ShirowShirow Gated Tail from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Gated Tail
May 22nd 2019 at 11:01:08 PM

I found the Bowser vs Ganon one funny because they bring up Ganondorf's curse killing the Deku Tree as a measure of his power. As if it was death magic or something.

The "Curse" is the Gohma that you fight at the dungeon, he just sicced a big bug on the thing.

That one's pretty old and probably worth a renewal akin to Sonic Vs Mario though.

Bleye knows Sabers.
JRads47 Can't Win With These Cats from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
Can't Win With These Cats
May 22nd 2019 at 11:14:00 PM

A lot of Season 3 episodes are pretty contentious.

The only one that bothers me is Scout vs Tracer to be honest.

I don't think I've ever rewatched that episode.

Speaking of which, anyone remember Ken vs Terry? Neither do I.

Edited by JRads47 on May 22nd 2019 at 2:16:06 PM

"What does the word 'government' mean to you?" -an Actual Genius
ShirowShirow Gated Tail from Land of maple syrup Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Gated Tail
May 22nd 2019 at 11:17:50 PM

I never understood the point of matchups that have canonically happened, honestly. Which, come to think of it, the coming battle includes.

Weiss and Mitsuru have fought before. They're pretty evenly matched.

Bleye knows Sabers.
May 22nd 2019 at 11:26:09 PM

My big one is Ryu vs Scorpion, but I've made my take on that pretty clear in the recent past.

I also dislike Goku vs Superman: Act. 2 - The Exaggerated Boogaloo, mostly because as a Superman fan I find the whole thing really demeaning to the character. And also, as a Dragonball fan, I'm well aware of when someone's trying to patronize me. And also, also, as a fan of Death Battle I recognize a completely pointless use of a proverbial timeslot when I see it.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 22nd 2019 at 11:27:26 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

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