DEATH BATTLE

Well you generally assume that would mean the comments section of the fist place it is posted. Which is Screwattack.

@Arawn: The fight involves Spider-Man, not Spock.

Like it or not, SpOck has Spider-Man's body and powers, and therefore technically is Spider-Man, even if Doc Ock's mind is in control.

Was that fight before Superior?

Yes, I'm sure the fans who suggested it had exactly that in mind when they requested it.

The fight was before the Superior Spiderman line started...

Also, I don't really see how prep time would help Bats unless the rigged the "arena" or built an anti-Spidey gadget, but what would be the point of that? How much time would Bats need, anyway?
Also, Peter's "spidey-senses" are pretty vague to an outsider looking in. It'd seem like instantaneous reaction time. Which is a daunting prospect, but the reality is a little skewed from that.

edited 7th Nov '13 3:14:30 PM by zeromaeus

All he'd really need is a supply of aerosolized cloroethane. I could get that now.

I imagine Spidey knows he's weak to that pesticide, and would therefore assume his opponent, f give time to research him, would have that on hand, and prepare accordingly.

Mutual prep time tends to cause a lot of I Know You Know I Know situations, I think.

edited 7th Nov '13 3:57:06 PM by Enlong

Didn't you just quit arguing because you said this was dumb?

And so long as we're Stating the Simple Solution, Peter, Why Don't You Just Shoot Him?? Is he going to sleep in an armored suit?

He never has before. There is no documented instance of Spider-Man being able to overcome his weakness to Ethyl Chloride.

His standard reaction is to fall over and pray like hell that someone comes along and saves his ass.

Just with you, considering you're an admitted troll.

Well, not overcoming the weakness itself, but preventing himself from being exposed to it, either by stripping his opponent of likely sources of the stuff, or by going into battle with a gas mask.

edited 7th Nov '13 4:34:02 PM by Enlong

Oh I can troll, but I didn't admit that today. You're just plain wrong.

Gah, must avoid spoilers until I see the match. I can only say BUCKY! CAPTAIN BUCKY O'HARE!

Well, that and the revelation of Mr.Nazi Face being a Mrs. surprises me. I generally don't make assumptions unless the screen name actually is gendered itself, and apparently I can't even rely on that anymore.

His head was blown off by powers from RARE!

Don't worry about it. No offense taken.

edited 7th Nov '13 4:50:55 PM by Mr.NaziFace

Alright, since you've stated I'm strawmanning and a troll, and I'm just plain bored of this argument and would like to wrap it up, I'm instead going to phrase this as a series of open-ended questions to which I'd genuinely like your answer for:

• What is Spider Man doing during this prep time?
• When does this prep time end?
• Are they both aware they're prepping?
• What is off-limits?

And finally, the reason we bring up that Batman relies on others in his prep time is because he does all the time. However, it has been said that Dick is The Heart of the DCU. He can call in favors that Bruce can't. Marvel has someone like that too, and it's Spider Man. He has worked with, and often is friends with, everyone. The New York street heroes, the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, etc., etc. He has friends in high places just like Batman does.

Granted, Batman's best friend is the friend in the HIGHEST place, AKA Superman. Unless Spider-Man called in ALL his favors at once....

That'd be a messy tag-team fight, wouldn't it?

To self-strawman again here, "Ultimate Nullifier".

"What is in the possession of Galactus, and requires the direct intervention of the Watcher for any human being to obtain, even if we ignore how horrifically it can backfire if not used perfectly?" I'll take "Characters who wouldn't actually take prep time" Alex.

Alright, the answer is Spider-Man. "Who has no life insurance or any form of a backup plan if he dies, and will almost always rush headfirst into danger with no thought for what is awaiting him, counting on his default powers to see him through, because he still has the maturity and foresight of a teenager, Alex"?

I tried to be open and ask you legitimate questions, yet you ignored them and any legitimate response.

Furthermore, both times I mentioned the Ultimate Nullifier, I specifically said I was self-strawmanning here. Also, isn't the U.N. currently in Reed's possession?

edited 7th Nov '13 6:00:04 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Nazi, can you just admit to hating Spider-Man? I think that would just smooth out this conversation.

Edit: And has it ever been explicitly stated that Peter doesn't have life insurance? Or is that just "We never see it explicitly happen, so it never happens ever," in which case we can infer that no character in any form of media needs to eat, sleep, bathe, or shit.

edited 7th Nov '13 6:03:54 PM by SonOfSharknado

It was in The Other.

http://www.amazon.com/Spider-Man-Other-HC-Amazing/dp/0785121889

If I hated Spider-Man, how would I know all this stuff about him?

No. It always returns to Galactus's possession. Reed had it for a short period of time, thenit disappeared, then Galactus had it again.

edited 7th Nov '13 6:21:09 PM by Mr.NaziFace

The Other occurred seven years ago IRL, and at least a couple of years ago in-universe. Since then Peter took a high-paying job at Horizon Labs, and probably got life insurance there.

Employer-provided life insurance does not display a characters foresight or maturity, just that he lucked into someone covering his ass.

The fact that he didn't have life insurance isn't the issue here - it was that he knowingly went out each and every night into a world that could have thrown anything at him without ever having a contingency plan, or even preparation beyond his webbing and his powers. Do you follow the point here?

Did you know that Batman knows the names and medical histories of every thug he fights? He knows all of their weaknesses, fresh injuries, personal faults, so he can dispatch them all as quickly and effortlessly as possible. By contrast, do you think Spider-Man knows the name of any mook he's ever fought?

edited 7th Nov '13 6:34:09 PM by Mr.NaziFace

That's because Spider-Man has a specific skillset of super powers, and Batman's super power is being bullshit.

That, and Spider-Man lives in a universe where you can attempt to have a normal life, whereas Batman lives in a reality where any attempt to have any semblance of a normal life will fail miserably and painfully, and Batman already knows this and devotes every waking minute of his un-life to fighting crimes.

Literally every thug? Considering the amount of manpower certain rogues have, and the occurence of random muggings during a patrol, that's somewhere between "impressive" and "impossible".

I was also under the impression that, like Spider Man, Batman has an array of gadgets and weapons that can be considered "standard" for him. Albeit a larger stable of standard gadgets than Spider Man has. Batarangs, grapnel, smoke bombs, etc. The stuff that is his bread and butter equipment for when he's doing a standard patrol or going up against someone for whom he isn't packing a specialized bat-kit.

edited 7th Nov '13 6:42:36 PM by Enlong