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Tanrage Since: Jul, 2010
#226: Aug 16th 2012 at 12:57:19 PM

Wasn't the Anti-Alpha drugs nulling properties a side effect? It actually had been proven effective at preventing normal birth defects but at the cost of also preventing Alpha development? If I'm remembering right, then the government was certainly the lighter shade of grey there, far lighter even. It's prescribe a drug in cases where birth defects are highly probably but can be prevented by the same stuff, with the cost of preventing any Alpha abilities that *may or may not* arise from developing versus acts of terrorism against relative innocents and condemning who knows how many non-Alpha children to be born with birth defects on the off chance that maybe the next kid will bean Alpha.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#227: Aug 16th 2012 at 4:13:12 PM

it would be too easy for someone to be maimed or killed.

Assuming the risk is known and accepted (considering most Alpha abilities are quite damaging, they probably should expect to get maimed at the very least) I don't consider that to override the moral neutrality of "informed consent".

Overall, my main issue with the governments handling of the situation seems to be that they are painting the Alphas into one of three categories: dangerous, harmless or works for us. However, I could be extrapolating from limited worthwhile data. For instance, other than Nina, I'd say that the main cast is a group I would personally just leave alone as they fall under "only mildly more dangerous than random people". I'm also curious if being a specific Alpha variant comes with a specific mental issue. For instance, does having super strength mean you'll have control issues or is it just luck of the draw.

On Healing Factor villain: I think he has a moral (if not correct) cause, but immoral methodology. Essentially, he's a bad guy fighting for a good/acceptable cause. My feeling is that it's not correct to assume that a war between the two groups is inevitable, but I do think that it's likely. I also think it likely that public reaction to this would be kneejerk predictable and that there would be significant political capital invested in whatever terrible panicky solution the Think of the Children! mentality produces and it would be incredibly difficult to uproot just as in things like the War On Drugs.

edited 16th Aug '12 4:18:01 PM by Deboss

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#228: Aug 21st 2012 at 3:46:13 AM

Upon thinking on it, I'd like to have the blonde girls power. Even with the drawback, it's just too neat of a power to turn down.

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polooglu Since: Nov, 2010
#229: Aug 21st 2012 at 10:32:44 AM

Yeah, Rachel's reaction to Nina was pretty much mine.

ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
#230: Sep 11th 2012 at 4:25:53 AM

Well, there you go, nina is starting to be a "good guy" again.

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polooglu Since: Nov, 2010
#231: Oct 8th 2012 at 5:18:31 PM

Kat's still around? I was convinced that I'd missed some scene were she left or something, since she literally hasn't been mentioned for two, maybe three episodes.

Tanrage Since: Jul, 2010
#232: Oct 8th 2012 at 5:44:13 PM

[up] In-universe she's training at Quantico, Bill said he expects her to finish in two weeks because of her ability. Real reason? Most likely Sy Fy micro budgets, especially for a show that was initially announced as canceled last year.

edited 8th Oct '12 5:44:40 PM by Tanrage

TheProffesor The Professor from USA Since: Jan, 2011
Tanrage Since: Jul, 2010
#234: Oct 8th 2012 at 10:53:18 PM

[up] I meant last year, t was initially announced as being cancelled and then a later announcement said it was renewed.

Psychobabble6 from the spark of Westeros Since: May, 2011
#235: Oct 14th 2012 at 9:26:06 PM

That's a really cute baby. I don't even like babies and I have to say, that's a really damn cute baby.

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ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
#238: Oct 23rd 2012 at 2:45:42 PM

Yep, interesting right? I am not sure though, why the season ended this way. one of my theories is that syfy wants more spectacular abilities and made the writers "boost" them. Although that could turn into a problem if they don't have the buget for it.

On the Watsonian side, liked to see Rosen getting a bit darker but I hope after his epiphany this episode he will go back to his old self, I really liked the non military/law enforcement non violent leader. It's not often I've seen this. Yay for Skylar, love tha character (not least because of Summer Glau). Also badass kat. She's becoming my favorite team member. I wonder hof the boost will affect her. More memory loss? She can only hold a month right now.

edited 23rd Oct '12 2:48:32 PM by ZheToralf

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Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
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#239: Oct 25th 2012 at 6:02:26 PM

Rosen can't go back to his old self for this simple reason: If he wakes up, he's an Alpha.

ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
#240: Oct 26th 2012 at 12:46:52 AM

[up]yeah, i thought that too. Though that would mean that he must have had some dormant alpha ability What could it be?

edited 26th Oct '12 12:55:29 AM by ZheToralf

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Psychobabble6 from the spark of Westeros Since: May, 2011
#241: Oct 26th 2012 at 4:37:33 AM

Maybe something similar to Dani's? Zoe has an ability relatively similar to Skylar's (but I can't remember any other parent-child matchups). Empathy or telepathy or something like that sounds like something that'd be par for the course for him anyway.

I'm curious as to why Gary is the only one still conscious. Think it's related to the same reason Nina can't push him?

And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know.
Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... from Land Down Under Since: Oct, 2010
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#242: Oct 26th 2012 at 7:20:34 AM

Yeah, he's wired differently to other people and doesn't interpret information similarly to others.

edited 26th Oct '12 7:20:46 AM by Nicknacks

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nman Since: Mar, 2010
#243: Oct 26th 2012 at 6:56:53 PM

I thought it was because he is one-with-the-radiation and all those electronic pulses wouldn't faze him. Or something.

ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
#244: Oct 26th 2012 at 7:08:43 PM

Also, Skylar said normal people MOSTLY die. That implies a chance of survival.

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#245: Oct 27th 2012 at 3:46:27 PM

IIRC they already established the thing doesn't effect Gary earlier in the season when they dealt with the prototypes? I don't remember the episode, but do recall Gary saying that a couple weeks ago. I also don't think they need a latent ability to survive, the device just turns them into an Alpha.

Izeinspring Since: Jun, 2012
#246: Oct 28th 2012 at 3:19:38 AM

That was certainly the implication. It was not stated outright - I think the writers wanted the leeway to go either way on it, but a heck of a lot of hints point that way.

Swish Long Live the King Since: Jan, 2001
ZheToralf Floating Advice Reminder from somewhere in Germany Since: Dec, 2009
#248: Jan 16th 2013 at 11:25:48 PM

Well, Summer Glau was in this (even if she was just a recurring character).

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