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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
If we're that skittish about getting some dents in it and ruining vacations, rather than protesting for the ideals that the statue represents, then the statue of liberty is just an idol and should be melted down for pennies. We don't deserve to even look upon it if we're not willing to act worthy of it.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
And by that logic, there's nothing wrong with sitting on the rising sun chair where George Washington sat at the Consitutional Convention.
The mission of the NPS is to preserve our cultural and natural heritage for future generations, and that means it's our job to respect them as well.
Edited by megaeliz on Jul 5th 2018 at 4:21:59 AM
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to prove. The risk of damage to the statue was very minimal, and as far as protests go it was both peaceful and high-profile. Arguably it was effective, and trying to diminish that after the fact makes no sense.
That's the kind of reaction I'd expect to see from a Very Serious beltway pundit, it's facile bothsides stuff.
Edited by archonspeaks on Jul 5th 2018 at 1:25:19 AM
They should have sent a poet.![]()
Is this really the hill you want to die on? Your desire to preserve national monuments is praiseworthy and admirable, but minor damage simply isn't worth opposing a perfectly reasonable protest over.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 5th 2018 at 4:24:21 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThe only concern I'd have is the safety of the protester,it's true the statue can be repaired but supposing she lost her footing and fell? Lives are irreplaceable,bits of a statue are
To be clear, I'm not against the protest,especially since passive protests don't get you the attention that civil disobedience does
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverAnd by that logic, there's nothing wrong with sitting on the rising sun chair where George Washington sat at the Consitutional Convention. The mission of the NPS is to preserve our cultural and natural heritage for future generations, and that means it's our job to respect them as well.
And you know what? I'd give a protester props for staging a photo in that chair if, say, the current administration was in the process of abolishing the Constitution. Because in my opinion, these artifacts lose all cultural heritage when what they symbolize gets ignored.
The Statue of Liberty is just an old hunk of copper devoid of meaning without the symbolism behind it, and the administration is actively trying to undermine its meaning.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.NPR has a full article regarding Pruitt's resignation
- I just hope that the investigations will continue into his behavior during his tenure.
Changing the subject back to Trump Bashing, the London Mayor approves baby Trump blimp to fly over city during visit
Democrats’ playbook for stopping Donald Trump’s Supreme Court pick
Goes into detail on what options Democrats have to block or delay Trump's pick for SCOTUS.
Options include flipping Republican votes, quorum busting, adding term limits to judges, playing on Trump's conflicts of interest in nominating a Justice while the Mueller probe is ongoing, and court packing
Interesting.
IIRC The vox posted recently about court packing also suggested that court packing could be used as a threat to push for term limits of judges, so the damage is reduced without the risk of taking such potentially unpopular action as court packing.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Jul 5th 2018 at 5:45:40 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangRe: protesting, if you aren't making people angry/inconveniencing someone you're not doing a very good job of it. Yeah, there should be limits, but "One person might slightly damage a giant monument" isn't one of them, I think.
Protests don't happen when everything is fine and dandy, and expecting their to be no controversy at all is just naïve.
It's from huffpo, but this is worth a read.
Trump Isn't Remaking The Supreme Court. Leonard Leo Is.
Leo, executive vice president of The Federalist Society, a national organization of conservative lawyers, has played a central role in the selection and confirmation of three Supreme Court justices: John Roberts, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch. And on Wednesday, Leo announced that he’s taking leave from his job, effective immediately, to personally advise Trump on a replacement for retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy.
Trump plans to pick someone from his previously released list of 25 potential Supreme Court nominees ― a list that Leo put together for him, at Trump’s request. If all goes as planned, Leo, 53, will have helped secure his fourth justice on the court by the early fall.
No president in modern history has had this kind of influence in reshaping the Supreme Court. Leo doesn’t singularly deserve credit for putting these judges on the court, of course; it takes teams of people to get a nominee through. But long after Trump is out of the White House, Americans will be feeling the effects of a court stacked not by any particular president but, in large part, by Leo.
“It’s incredible,” said Carl Tobias, a law professor at Virginia’s University of Richmond and an expert on judicial nominations. “Certainly, he’s had an outsize influence for any one person. I know President George W. Bush relied on him a fair amount for two nominees, and in this administration, I don’t think there’s ever been anything quite like it.
Since he is on leave to advise Trump, that could run into some legal issues. [1]
Legal issues include whether he is delegated duties normally carried out by a federal employee, making him subject to federal conflict of interest rules, 18 USC 208, and whether his services violate augmentation laws banning outside supplementation of government agency functions.
Edited by megaeliz on Jul 5th 2018 at 6:48:48 AM

Edited by megaeliz on Jul 5th 2018 at 4:11:05 AM