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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247951: Jun 30th 2018 at 6:36:14 AM

There's a certain irony that Reddit is actually like 10,000 individual boards and communities.

So, on the politics board there's nothing but people talking about how they hate the Alt-Right and are disgusted they exist.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/8v1cog/accused_annapolis_shooter_had_deep_dark_links_to/?st=jj1fwabn&sh=3629af7a

But are scared they're high fiving them. They won't go to check, though, lest they be infected like journeying into R'lyeh.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 30th 2018 at 6:37:27 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#247952: Jun 30th 2018 at 6:44:38 AM

BTW, the Annapolis shooter was Alt-Right. SHOCK OF SHOCKS.

You know what? Everyone who said this was likely something else, should go slap themselves.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247953: Jun 30th 2018 at 6:47:45 AM

America has moved from ISIS attacking us to producing our own homegrown non-religious misogynist terrorists.

And I have no doubt this is just going to be a trend now like school shootings.

I was on a school trip during Columbine. I realized it would be a turning point then and I have that same feeling now.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 30th 2018 at 6:49:57 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
Eats moldy bread and flies into windows
#247954: Jun 30th 2018 at 6:53:01 AM

Is there a possibility of alt-righters pulling a full-blown domestic terror attack in the same vein as the Oklahoma City Bombing? Or would that only happen if Trump wasn't in charge?

Edited by PresidentStalkeyes on Jun 30th 2018 at 2:55:44 PM

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247955: Jun 30th 2018 at 6:55:46 AM

Is there a possibility of a full-blown domestic terror attack in the same vein as the Oklahoma City Bombing? Or would that only happen if Trump wasn't in charge?

Trump has repeatedly stoked violence and called for attacks. So I wouldn't think there would be a problem with someone blowing up a building like the New York Times for some of these psychopaths.

I mean, this IS a terrorist attack on journalists.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 30th 2018 at 6:57:29 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#247956: Jun 30th 2018 at 6:58:27 AM

[up][up]And yet it's already out of the news, mostly.

"You can reply to this Message!"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247957: Jun 30th 2018 at 7:07:50 AM

I wonder if Sinclair just has standing orders to kill all things which make white supremacist misogynist nutjobs look bad.

EDIT:

ICE is hated by the police for multiple reasons, including the fact they're impersonating them.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ice-conflict-20180630-story.html

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/ice-officers-police-bill/index.html

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 30th 2018 at 7:21:38 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#247958: Jun 30th 2018 at 7:19:42 AM

[up]x6

Why should people punish themselves for taking a "wait and see" approach regarding the motives of someone already in custody? Ringing the alarm bell too soon would cause a Crying Wolf mentality to take hold.

Also, anything more solidly reputable than Salon and/or Reddit as a source for that information? Though apparently, the symbol the guy shooped onto the foreheads of those he had a grudge against originated in Berserk, so I can only imagine how quickly the Moral Guardians will jump against that instead of firearms.

[up][up]

Well sure - it wasn't kids and the body count was only single-digits. That's practically ho-hum in this day and age.

Edited by ironballs16 on Jun 30th 2018 at 7:27:42 AM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247959: Jun 30th 2018 at 7:30:58 AM

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/29/ted-cruz-arthur-jones-vote-democrat-688743

Ted Cruz said not to vote for GOP caniddate Arthur Jones the Nazi over the Democrat candidate.

I'm saddened this pleasantly surprised me.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 30th 2018 at 7:31:29 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#247960: Jun 30th 2018 at 7:34:41 AM

Yeah, that is what we expect from people, for them to say "Don't vote for a Nazi".

Cruz gets no points for this.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247961: Jun 30th 2018 at 7:36:43 AM

I was to the point of expecting dead silence from the GOP because they have been courting Nazis again and again.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#247962: Jun 30th 2018 at 7:37:56 AM

[up][up]Pretty much.

"Hey, if I tell people not to vote for a Nazi, maybe I'll win enough brownie points so I don't get cruicified in the midterms!"

That's basically what he's doing.

Edited by kkhohoho on Jun 30th 2018 at 9:39:31 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#247963: Jun 30th 2018 at 7:55:40 AM

On the subject of Arthur Jones, if I'm reading this right the GOP had multiple chances to prevent Jones becoming the nominee and botched every one of them.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/29/arthur-jones-nazi-illinois-republicans-686875

“First, it’s morally wrong and I think it’s really harmful to the party. The guy’s a complete nutcase. He’s a Nazi,” said conservative GOP state Rep. David Mc Sweeney. “This is an absolute political disaster.”

Mc Sweeney’s comments come just days after the filing deadline passed for qualifying a third-party candidate for the general election — which could have provided a safe harbor for Illinois Republican votes. Prior to that, the party had also failed to recruit a candidate to challenge Jones in the primary election, failed to knock him off the primary ballot and wasn’t able to field a write-in candidate against him in the primary.

Running a third-party candidate against Jones in November was among the options left to Illinois Republicans after Jones clinched the GOP nomination by running unopposed. But the deadline came and went this week and that didn’t happen either.

Edited by sgamer82 on Jun 30th 2018 at 8:55:54 AM

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#247964: Jun 30th 2018 at 8:33:28 AM

I'm especially not giving him credit because said Nazi is running in a blue district, and basically only got the nomination because the GOP couldn't be bothered to put in the effort of finding a real candidate for a race they were almost certainly gonna lose anyway.

It doesn't take courage to stand up to a bad person when you have considerably more power than them and they're not likely to ever gain power.

Edited by Gilphon on Jun 30th 2018 at 11:34:57 AM

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#247965: Jun 30th 2018 at 8:35:59 AM

Cross-posted from the European Politics thread:

Quit the EU for better trade deal, Trump reportedly told Macron

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#247966: Jun 30th 2018 at 8:55:35 AM

NAFTA, NATO, EU, WTA, UN....he wants them all gone.

Surprised that NORAD hasn't been brought up, but that might be because he's ignorant of its existence.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#247967: Jun 30th 2018 at 9:09:44 AM

Probably because someone told them that NORAD is the Stargate Program instead of a US/Canadian program to secure North American airspace.

Inter arma enim silent leges
PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
Eats moldy bread and flies into windows
#247968: Jun 30th 2018 at 9:12:45 AM

Quick question, has Trump actually succeeded at single-handedly forcing the U.S. to leave all these groups? Is there any realistic chance he could without being delayed to infinity like what happened with Brexit for a while?

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#247969: Jun 30th 2018 at 9:38:45 AM

Why should people punish themselves for taking a "wait and see" approach regarding the motives of someone already in custody? Ringing the alarm bell too soon would cause a Crying Wolf mentality to take hold.

He was a white guy in his thirties who attacked a newsroom after Trump and-even more blatantly-a prominent alt-right figure encouraged attacks on the press, with alt-right sites/boards celebrating the attack almost immediately after it happened.

What more do you want?

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#247970: Jun 30th 2018 at 9:38:57 AM

[up][up]Trump couldn't unilaterally leave any of them. He can whine like a child, but even this Congress isn't going to allow that.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Jun 30th 2018 at 9:40:28 AM

Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#247971: Jun 30th 2018 at 9:51:40 AM

He left the Paris Climate Accords.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#247972: Jun 30th 2018 at 9:59:30 AM

[up] The PCA wasn't a traditional treaty; it was more a simple agreement that every nation signed on to, with their own conditions thrown in. Real Treaties in the USA have to be approved by Congress and signed by the President. That is why Trump could easily leave it, and the Iran Deal. It's also why he can't leave NAFTA and the UN as easily, because those were actual Treaties signed by Congress.

Of course, don't blame Obama for being forced to only make agreements with nations and not Treaties, blame the Obstructionists in Congress.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#247973: Jun 30th 2018 at 10:31:29 AM

Now, he can certainly trash our relationships with those folks, which is its own kind of damage. But yeah, not everything is as easy to leave as the Paris Climate Accords, simply because of the kind of deal that they are.

Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#247974: Jun 30th 2018 at 10:38:39 AM

And the Paris Agreement is in practice meaningless compared to the other organizations, as it doesn't bind any of its members to complete the goals. Trump leaving it was just to send the message that the enviroment wouldn't be held in consideration at all in his presidency.

Edited by Grafite on Jun 30th 2018 at 6:39:00 PM

Life is unfair...
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#247975: Jun 30th 2018 at 10:42:06 AM

And most blue states, iirc, responded be making a point to adhere to the Accords' rules anyway


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