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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#247151: Jun 26th 2018 at 6:55:08 PM

A new ad for MJ Hegar, who is running as a Democrat for Congress, in Texas 31. Here's her website, and her donation page

https://youtu.be/Zi6v4CYNSIQ

It's really quite awesome.

(Embedding videos is not working right now, just so you guys know.)

Edited by megaeliz on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:14:09 AM

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#247152: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:17:27 PM

Enormous upset in NY’s 14. Rep Crowley, a 10 term incumbent and #4 in House Democratic leadership, (and thus seen as a potential heir to Pelosi) has been upset by progressive challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who backs Medicare for all, the government guaranteeing jobs for everyone, and abolishing ICE.

Edited by TheWanderer on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:18:36 AM

| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#247153: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:37:33 PM

Didn't he spend, like, a million dollars more than her? Wonder what she did to make up for the money difference.

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#247154: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:37:50 PM

Well, that doesn't bode well. Here's hoping this new person can still manage to win.

Also, went to the bookstore today to find that Jeff Weaver has written a book called Why Bernie Won. And here I was hoping that was dying down.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#247155: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:39:16 PM

[up] That's rich coming from the guy who was a big part of why Bernie lost the actual primaries. Honestly, one of Bernie Sander's biggest mistakes was hiring Weaver in the first place.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#247156: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:41:48 PM

[up][up] From what I gather, the district in question is smack-dab in the middle of NYC. Hopefully, she'll do fine.

LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#247157: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:43:36 PM

Part of it is that she's Puerto Rican in a diverse district, but a lot of her policies (Medicaid for All) are rather appealing. This isn't Kansas. A progressive candidate running in New York has a good shot of winning an election. NYC itself is pretty liberal for the most part so there's a good chance.

If anything it's a good thing that new blood are coming in.

Bernie's odd. Some of his policies (tariffs) are fucking stupid. That said, he has been pro choice from the beginning and he was willing to tell Aipac to go fuck itself.

Edited by LordYAM on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:44:45 AM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#247158: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:44:17 PM

squabbles between different wings of a party are normal and expected. What matters is that we stand united on the important stuff, which largely, we have.

Edited by megaeliz on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:49:53 AM

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#247159: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:45:17 PM

That's why it bothers me Weaver's got this new book out. It's only going to try to reopen the divisions.

LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#247160: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:45:53 PM

In New York anyway. She's actually a justice democrat and she pulled off a pretty big victory (57%-42%). I think she's gonna do fine.

[up] True. Though I wouldn't want Hillary running again either.

Edited by LordYAM on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:48:32 AM

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#247161: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:46:28 PM

"Justice Democrat". God that's a pretentious thing to call yourself.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#247162: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:47:40 PM

What do you expect from something founded by Cenk? Probably for the best that he's not a part of it anymore ever since his past misogyny came to light.

[up][up] HRC is not going to run again. Why worry about that?

Edited by M84 on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:47:49 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#247163: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:49:33 PM

[up][up] At least they aren't forming there own party and splitting the vote.

Edited by megaeliz on Jun 26th 2018 at 10:49:43 AM

LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#247164: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:49:59 PM

Maybe, but there are parts of their platform that are agreeable (striking down citizens united, raising minimum wage, reforming the criminal justice system.) We can't afford to have overly idealogical people but given how obstructionist republicans are being it would be nice to have democrats who tell them "fuck you we're not gonna put up with this."

Uh....Cenk was part of Justice Democrats but he's more aligned with WOLF-Pac. Kyle Kulinski's the justice democrat guy (In some ways the guy's a wing nut but he has called out the new atheist movement on islamophobia and called out Ben Shapiro on the fact that he couldn't really care less about free speech. He fell out with Dave Rubin when Rubin tried to defend Israeli war crimes).

Whatever one says about Cenk he was willing to tackle new atheists before a lot of other people were and the excuses that a lot of people use (that he's a secret muslim or a muslim apologist) are rather rich. It's like, criticize the guy for being a blowhard and that it took way too fucking long to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide. Criticizing him for being a "secret muslim?" Yeah.........

Edited by LordYAM on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:54:53 AM

AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#247165: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:50:04 PM

The heck does Clinton have to do with anything? We're talking about Jeff Weaver writing a book that's only going to stoke up the stupider elements of the Sanders' fanbase. It's not about Clinton. Hell, it's not even about Sanders. It's about how every time we manage to unify around an issue and start pushing back against Trump, some idiot on the Unicorn Brigade Left tries to blow it up again. In this case, the idiot's name is Jeff Weaver.

[up]This seems like an opportune time to remind you that it was elements of the Purity Left, not mainstream Democrats, who floated the idea of working with the alt-right to get Medicare For All.

Edited by AmbarSonofDeshar on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:50:50 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#247166: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:52:44 PM

Seriously, I don't know what Sanders was thinking hiring Weaver to handle his campaign in the first place. Sanders just doesn't seem to be a good judge of character or competence.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#247167: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:56:23 PM

Unicorn Brigade........that seems like a rather childish insult. In some regards they behave ridiculously. On the other hand, we can't just have more of the same politics either. Parties need to grow and evolve. Things like the crime bill of the nineties was caused by democrats trying to beat the republicans at their own game, and we got a lot of stupid stuff from it. (The AEDPA, which gutted habeus corpus, the crime bill etc).

Edited by LordYAM on Jun 26th 2018 at 7:58:19 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247168: Jun 26th 2018 at 7:57:09 PM

I don't think there was ever a chance for Sanders to win.

But he did highlight the Democratic base was not as energized as it could have been.

Even if it was pretty energized.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#247169: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:00:08 PM

[up][up] You don't do that by saying stupid shit like "we should work with alt-right bigots to get single payer!"

Disgusted, but not surprised
LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#247170: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:00:15 PM

He did better than most expected him to do. While some of his ideas are dirt stupid others do resonate with people (and he was more willing to snub AIPAC). One thing I noticed when looking at his voting record.....he's always been pro choice.

[up] True. That absolutely was stupid on their part. But corporate money does wield a bit to much influence in the democratic party. Not as bad as in the republicans but it's there.

Edited by LordYAM on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:03:17 AM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#247171: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:01:30 PM

Umm...

Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!

Edited by megaeliz on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:03:14 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#247172: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:01:49 PM

Are we really doing this? Are we really going to bring up the 2016 primaries again here?

Edited by M84 on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:03:04 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#247173: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:02:51 PM

How am I bringing up the Democratic primaries again? I really do think that corporate money in excess is a bad thing. Getting rid of it completely is a pipe dream but too much is also dangerous

Edited by LordYAM on Jun 26th 2018 at 8:04:24 AM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#247174: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:02:55 PM

Also this.

The Democrats are in Turmoil! Open Borders and unchecked Crime a certain way to lose elections. Republicans are for Strong Borders, NO Crime! A BIG NIGHT!

And this is kind of just sad

Edited by megaeliz on Jun 26th 2018 at 11:08:29 AM

LordYAM Since: Jan, 2015
#247175: Jun 26th 2018 at 8:05:43 PM

That's rich considering that statistically mexican first generation immigrants are LESS likely to be rapists and murderers (seriously. The average trump voter is more likely to rape and murder people than a mexican.)


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