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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#247001: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:32:45 PM

Relevant to the current topic, though I imagine the reaction of most here will be to break out the tiny violins:

Roseanne Barr tearfully breaks down in interview: 'I lost everything'

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/entertainment/roseanne-barr-shmuley-boteach-interview/index.html

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#247002: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:34:06 PM

[up]Someone find me a picture of that one violin that is only a few nanometers long and is played with lasers.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#247003: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:35:31 PM

[up][up]From the article, its more 'I didn't mean it!' BS. Fuck her.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#247004: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:37:14 PM

In a related article linked in that one, she relates she was asked, while trying to beg to keep the show, "what were you thinking?" and her reply was "I thought she was white!"

Even without knowing what the woman Roseanne mocked actually looks like, I can already smell the BS.

edited 25th Jun '18 1:37:33 PM by sgamer82

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247005: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:38:15 PM

Roseanne Barr didn't lose so much as squander her legacy.

Her show was far ahead of its time dealing with child abuse, homosexuality (i.e. gay people exist and are perfectly fine), the death of the American Dream, and more.

She chose to ally with Trump and now people think of her as just another bigot.

Because, well, he repudiates everything she used to stand for.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
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#247006: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:40:42 PM

[up] Yeah, it's unfathomably stupid. She's an intelligent person; why would she think that allying with Trump would do anything but corrupt her legacy beyond hope?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#247007: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:41:54 PM

Maybe (but probably not) I'd feel an iota of sympathy for Barr if she owned up and truly apologized. But she hasn't, and she won't. And since racism isn't a side effect of sleeping pills; to hell with her.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247008: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:44:22 PM

I feel the same way about Mel Gibson.

Yes, you fucked up but you're the one who made it so everyone only remembers that.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#247009: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:44:33 PM

Seriously, why people keep blaming outbursts of bigotry on medicine, sleep deprivation, or alcohol is beyond me. That's basically admitting "Here are my real thoughts that I'd never actually say aloud but did due to lowered inhibitions and poor impulse control". They should try blaming LSD, it would be more believable.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247010: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:48:20 PM

Well, my brother once tried to kill me on cocaine and I know a lot of terrible drunken outbursts.

My wife also hallucinated a invisible dog on our bed she accused me of abusing and tying up with duct tape, which involved throwing things at me.

That was on ambien (and reacting badly with other medication)

So I'm fairly aware of how behavior can change dramatically.

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Lost in Space
#247011: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:50:17 PM

Her Ambien outburst alone wouldn't do it; it's just that it's entirely consistent with her prior behavior while not on sleeping pills.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#247012: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:57:16 PM

Starting to see the impact from the detainee crisis. While Trump's approval rating is down 4 points according to Gallup, his approval among Republicans is up...to 90%.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/06/25/trump-gop-approval-rating-immigration-crisis.cnn

http://news.gallup.com/poll/203207/trump-job-approval-weekly.aspx?g_source=link_newsv9&g_campaign=item_185273&g_medium=copy

Good news: he's hurting among Independents, which (along with Democratic turnout) is who you need come in the Midterms.

Bad but utterly predictable news: Basically the entire Republican base supports (or at least tolerates) crimes against humanity in their own backyard.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#247013: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:59:24 PM

Predictable, but saddening all the same. Just goes to show that Trump's supporters are almost completely on board with this madness.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#247014: Jun 25th 2018 at 1:59:42 PM

RE: World's Smallest Violin - Wonderella has you covered, coupled with Enhance Button.

As for Waters' statement, I saw nothing wrong with it... until that last sentence. As soon as you get someone's kids involved, regardless of how monstrous their parent is, that's goin' overboard, mate!

edited 25th Jun '18 2:00:18 PM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#247015: Jun 25th 2018 at 2:10:20 PM

Apparently the Virginia Senate nominee for the GOP, Corey Stewart, buys into the "civil war was about states' rights" malarky and opposes the Richmond elementary school being renamed after Barack Obama, claiming it's "political correctness run amok".

Ordinarily this would barely be worth commenting on, but now that Sessions of all people has admitted that it was about slavery, every single Republican who continues to deny it afterwards just looks even worse.

Fortunately, Tim Kaine is heavily favored to win in Virginia.

edited 25th Jun '18 2:12:48 PM by Draghinazzo

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#247016: Jun 25th 2018 at 2:14:12 PM

From the Washington post we have an article about how Donald "Build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" Trump and his role in the recent immigration crises, and how he predictably undermines any effort to fix his messes. Ending by pointing out that's he's just using immigration as a political wedge.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#247017: Jun 25th 2018 at 2:31:20 PM

[up][up]

Even worse is that there's a much more reasonable objection that he could have invoked - naming a public school building after a still-living President not even one term removed from office is a bit odd. Unless there are examples involving Ronald Reagan, of course.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247018: Jun 25th 2018 at 2:33:25 PM

That might make it unclear he's doing it because Obama is black.

I'm slowly coming to realize the racism is open and constantly stoked.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#247019: Jun 25th 2018 at 5:16:55 PM

[up] No offence, but you're only realising that now?

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#247020: Jun 25th 2018 at 5:19:38 PM

[up][up] What was your first clue?

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#247021: Jun 25th 2018 at 5:37:26 PM

I like to think the best of people.

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Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#247022: Jun 25th 2018 at 5:48:46 PM

I don't believe in that for the most part. Left to their own devices, people in general are pretty terrible and some (or most) will never EVER change no matter what logic, facts, or reason you throw at them. There are people out there who only care about themselves and some even get off on hurting others.

....that being said, there also many good people out there that do care about others and can make a difference. Assume the worst, but hold on for the best.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#247023: Jun 25th 2018 at 6:01:50 PM

The 2016 election and the wake of reveals in light of #Me Too! has left me rather jaded in regards to human nature. It's especially eroded the idea that just because someone seems like a good person doesn't mean they can't have also done terrible and deeply unconscionable things, i.e they were never really good, you just didn't know any better.

But that's the struggle. We can't really do anything else but try to be good and make things better little by little.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#247024: Jun 25th 2018 at 6:04:10 PM

If anything, life has taught me to be more cynical

Do not obey in advance.

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