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Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#246701: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:33:13 PM

What about Uranus? More fitting.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#246702: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:36:26 PM

This is getting awfully close to contemplating murder again, guys...

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#246703: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:37:04 PM

I'd find a synonym for hell to be more appropriate, than a name that is the butt of juvenile jokes.

[up] Sorry, let's move on.

To change the topic. A site called Quartz has listed the EU's tariffs. Listed are sweetcorn, Maize, rice, Peanut Butter, unfermented Orange Juice, whisky, Cigars, makeup, Steel, Iron, Boats, Yachts, and textile products and materials.

edited 22nd Jun '18 6:43:52 PM by MorningStar1337

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#246704: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:44:08 PM

Sending the alt-right to space might result in the creation the Principality of Zeon.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246705: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:45:50 PM

Elon Musk is colonizing Mars explicitly to found the Principality of Zeon.

With actual Mecha.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#246707: Jun 22nd 2018 at 7:03:55 PM

[up]If nothing else, taking children hostage is finally getting America to wake the hell up. If only they would've done so two years ago.tongue

TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#246708: Jun 22nd 2018 at 7:45:28 PM

[up][up][up] I prefer the IBO version... that's arguably a grimmer outcome though.

To be fair, that's the only Gundam series I'm really familiar with.

edited 22nd Jun '18 8:05:20 PM by TroperOnAStickV2

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RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246709: Jun 22nd 2018 at 7:46:46 PM

Sending the alt-right to space might result in the creation the Principality of Zeon.
I thought it might result in the creation of the Terran Confederacy.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246710: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:24:41 PM

The Terran Confederacy were born from everyone the UPL (who were an awful government) didn't want on Earth. This ranged from genuine criminals to political dissidents. It's more analogous to Australia than anything else. At least at first. Then they split apart into different factions who were all over the place on the political spectrum. You had the overall Confederacy, a tyrannical government with the veneer of democracy. You had the Kel-Morian Combine, effectively a MegaCorp. And you had the Umojan Protectorate, which dedicated itself to maintaining democratic ideals.

The alt-right, if they didn't end up literally eating each other in space, would probably form something akin to the Terran Dominion.

edited 22nd Jun '18 8:26:00 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#246711: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:40:53 PM

Cough cough Vagan will be the death of us if we send the alt right to space.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246712: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:42:59 PM

If the alt-right are the ones making first contact with aliens in this hypothetical scenario, with the aliens deciding that all humans are like that, what would be worse: the aliens deciding this means humans are to be avoided, or the aliens deciding this means humans are kindred spirits?

Disgusted, but not surprised
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#246713: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:50:16 PM

Or Humans Are Bastards, ergo, they must die to preserve life in space.

OR....the aliens are worse and try to kill us for the lulz.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#246714: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:01:35 PM

I'd argue aliens being convinced to leave us alone would constitute a successful first contact. If aliens are afraid of us, that's a very, very good thing.

Leviticus 19:34
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#246715: Jun 22nd 2018 at 11:14:31 PM

[up]Eeehhh, assuming aliens think even remotely like humans, making them fear us only makes it more likely that they'll make up some excuse to invade us before we do. "Not worth the trouble" is how I'd rather have aliens think about humanity.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246716: Jun 22nd 2018 at 11:43:09 PM

Eeehhh, assuming aliens think even remotely like humans, making them fear us only makes it more likely that they'll make up some excuse to invade us before we do. "Not worth the trouble" is how I'd rather have aliens think about humanity.

A guy commented the question was whether evolution would lend itself to tool using or sentience. Also, if sentience exists then whether we'd be capable of recognizing it as sentience if sufficiently different.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#246717: Jun 22nd 2018 at 11:52:07 PM

Is the crazy rumor of Martin Van Burr being Aaron Burr's illegitimate child just from Gore Vidal, or was it around before it? I'm wondering why anyone would think so beyond being rather juicy. I'd actually expect Bill Clinton to be the president with rumors he was illegitimate, considering his bio-dad was a bigamist that died about 3 months before he was born

edited 23rd Jun '18 12:58:55 AM by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246718: Jun 22nd 2018 at 11:58:36 PM

If you read the history of US Presidents, Bill Clinton is one of the tamer ones.

The 2nd most evil of all Presidents (after Andrew Jackson) is probably Grover Cleveland as he raped a woman, conceived a child, had the child put in an orphanage, and locked the mother in an insane asylum.

Edit:

Oh, Trump uses a lot of undocumented workers.

http://thehill.com/latino/393708-sanders-hypocrite-trump-rants-against-undocumented-immigrants-but-hires-them-at-his

edited 23rd Jun '18 12:22:41 AM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#246719: Jun 23rd 2018 at 1:00:21 AM

I don't mean illegitimate children of presidents, I mean accusations that the president/s themself were born out of wedlock. Also while Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil, there are crimes like genocide that would dwarf Cleveland in evil so I think calling him the 2nd most evil president for that is a bit too much

5th most evil, maybe

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246720: Jun 23rd 2018 at 1:23:19 AM

Point taken.

I always like to mention to students that it's important not to defend Jackson as a man of his time, either. Because Jackson had many people trying to STOP his act of genocide, including the Supreme Court.

Arguably, he started the worst of displacement because there was no sovereignty after then that couldn't be ignored.

edited 23rd Jun '18 1:23:31 AM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Cape Malleum Majorem
#246721: Jun 23rd 2018 at 3:51:35 AM

Didn't Trump release a (probably phony) set of Tax returns?

If he did, you can put as much stock in it as that phony doctor's report on his health, the one that he wrote himself. Actual clinical assessments don't use bigly boasting superlatives, and any medical test that comes back positive means you have that condition or disease.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#246722: Jun 23rd 2018 at 3:56:25 AM

Donald Trump flips on North Korea, declaring country still an 'extraordinary threat'

Donald Trump has declared that North Korea still poses an “extraordinary threat” to the United States, just days after saying that the country’s nuclear program no longer constituted a danger.

In an executive order on Friday, the president extended for one year the so-called “national emergency” with respect to the nuclear-armed nation, re-authorizing economic restrictions against it.

While expected, the declaration comes just nine days after Trump tweeted: “There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea,” following his summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Singapore.

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Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#246723: Jun 23rd 2018 at 4:52:48 AM

Because of course he did

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#246724: Jun 23rd 2018 at 5:16:32 AM

I was half expecting him to let it expire...

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#246725: Jun 23rd 2018 at 5:19:48 AM

[up]x3 The only surprising thing is that it didn't happen sooner

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.

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