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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#246651: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:02:21 PM

I want the pagans to win this and get them to force the Christians to move to the left.

I really want it.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246652: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:03:00 PM

[up]There are a bunch of Christians who are on the left, they're just often minorities and thus don't get any media attention.

Both Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama were devout Christians, they just weren't theocratic fucks and thus it wasn't as obvious.

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:03:36 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#246653: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:03:25 PM

Don't ruin paganism for the rest of us!

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#246654: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:06:51 PM

[up][up] I mean, I still have to go saying "I am a Christian but-", is annoying.

[up] They could still use their Underdog status to keep their dignity. Afterall, Pagans arent a unified group unlike Christians that have to share some common ideas

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#246655: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:11:08 PM

"Trump is the trailblazer, he is the Christopher Columbus of honest politics."

You know, comparing somebody to Columbus as a compliment has to be a special kind of stupid.

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:11:18 PM by DrunkenNordmann

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#246656: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:11:14 PM

It helps to identify by your denomination. I can say "I'm a Presbyterian" without too much flak, since we're kind of the casual generic Christians. The problem is mostly with Baptists and Evangelicals.

KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#246657: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:13:16 PM

Reading the word Evangelical in the USA context is so weird, in Peru, while they definitely have issues, they arent more racist than the rest of the population. For now.

Albeit. I am Catholic, so is another can of worms...

Im not as Leftist as I should be.

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:14:22 PM by KazuyaProta

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246658: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:14:34 PM

Even in the US black evangelicalism are a very different group then white evangelicals (i.e they're actually decent), though of course their power is completely limited so when we insult evangelicals we're always talking about the horrid right-wing white evangelicals.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#246659: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:17:38 PM

I know, is just that the terms are so weird. Albeit, I wonder how someone from a relatively non bigoted Evangelical family would feel with all those discussions.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#246660: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:17:53 PM

@Dr Dougsh: It's not alt-right, so much. There's always been a subset of pagans who have identified Norse/Germanic paganism with Aryan/Nordic racial identity - that goes back to Himmler, actually. That connection is old school Nazism.

(I've never heard of more Goddess-aligned religions being associated with any kind of hate movements except a few TERFs, probably because other kinds of hate tend to hate women.)

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:20:28 PM by Ramidel

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#246661: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:21:01 PM

[up] It actually predates Himmler - the völkisch movement had been around for a while and there were different far right groups associating with it before the Nazis came along.

The Nazis just co-opted it - like they did with most things.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#246662: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:21:01 PM

[up][up]

It goes way further than that and more specifically the völkisch movements of the 19th century. Germany was a hotbed of strange things, even during a time of renewed interest in occultism and various esoteric movements.

[up] [nja]'d

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:22:16 PM by TerminusEst

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#246663: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:23:10 PM

So noted, and thanks for the info.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246664: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:23:15 PM

I know, is just that the terms are so weird. Albeit, I wonder how someone from a relatively non bigoted Evangelical family would feel with all those discussions.
Since my grandparents and cousins are evangelicals I think I qualify tongue

Personally I understand that since they aren't bigoted they're a minority and that the majority is awful, thus I'm not at-all bothered by these kinds of talks.

Though of course the fact that I'm not an evangelical almost certainly has something to do with it.

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:23:41 PM by Fourthspartan56

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#246665: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:23:39 PM

There are still some far right movements that identify as pagan, though maybe not so much in America. I think Anders Breivik did (though he's been contradictory about this). Then there's idiot movements like the Sons of Odin, who are such patriots that they print their shirts in English rather than an actual Nordic language.

RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246666: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:23:53 PM

Isn't that the origin of "womp womp"?
I thought "Womp Womp" was the noise that the adults made in the Charlie Brown franchise.

You know, comparing somebody to Columbus as a compliment has to be a special kind of stupid.
Woe to the universe that stuck with sticking the New World with the name "Columbia". That must be an uncomfortable situation.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#246667: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:25:44 PM

[up][up]Right. My point is, identifying this movement with the alt-right is kind of incorrect - it's been around way longer. Anders Breivik is an old-school neo-Nazi, not an altrighter.

[up]KnowYourMeme says it's a newer name for Sad Trombone.

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:27:44 PM by Ramidel

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#246668: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:26:49 PM

I swear, if Anders Breivik had waited a few years before going on his rampage, he'd probably be on the Norwegian parliament by now.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246669: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:28:35 PM

[up]Somehow I doubt that, the kind of person who would launch a terrorist attack isn't likely to act within the system in such a manner.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246670: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:43:20 PM

Trump is as close to a anti-Christian candidate as you could possibly run. His worship of greed, misogyny, adultery, materialism, egocentrism, and cruelty is virtually every position he takes. His Christianity is also never mentioned until the election with many people having confirmed he's an atheist before then.

And they voted over him vs. the church going Methodist woman.

It's....infuriating.

Now I know how God felt everytime Israel betrayed him.

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:44:26 PM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#246672: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:53:23 PM

[up][up] "In the name of God, now I know what it feels like to be God!"

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#246673: Jun 22nd 2018 at 1:54:05 PM

[up]Too bad we can't make the earth open and swallow them up. And people wonder why Old Testament God seemed so wrathful all the time.

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:54:15 PM by danime91

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#246674: Jun 22nd 2018 at 2:00:12 PM

I seriously wonder if the government will just straight up start exterminating those kids. If they try there had better be riots on the damn streets.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246675: Jun 22nd 2018 at 2:06:14 PM

That's the big issue we'll find out in 14 days.

Why 14 days?

In 14 days, that's when the first part of the cash from the Facebook fund will go to the RAICES group and they plan to pay the bail for over 1000 of the families which have been separated, to reunite them.

There's a lot of fear the Trump administration won't let them go.

edited 22nd Jun '18 2:06:52 PM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.

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