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#246601: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:39:03 AM

That's what happens when you build your research instrument on confirmation bias.

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Raptorslash Since: Oct, 2010
#246602: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:39:41 AM

I think it’s not worth doing the survey. It isn’t as if Trump cares that much about what people think of his policies - as stated before, getting rid of net neutrality was unpopular with ordinary voters.

From my experience, neither liberals nor conservatives consider the mainstream media an ally - liberals, for example, are critical of the media for giving Trump and his supporters a fairly large platform and bending over backwards to show both sides. But Trump seems to have taken the usual conservative distrust of the mainstream media even farther.

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#246603: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:53:28 AM

Trump tweet: Republicans should wait until after mid-terms to accomplish any immigration reform.

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#246604: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:59:09 AM

So I just got another ad from "Trump Make America Great Again Committee" before a You Tube video (ironically one that's criticizing him, so go figure)

That's deliberate.

You Tube has introduced systems to give advertisers more control over which videos their ads appear on, but still gives content producers no control over what kind of ads appear on their videos. Conservatives have been eating this up, posting their propaganda on liberal-leaning videos.

Similarly, there've been a rash of "Repent your gayness before Jesus" ads appearing on pro-LGBT videos. Like anybody who watches videos from out and proud LGBT producers is going to go, "You know, this guy dressed like a priest makes a compelling point. I HAVE been sinning by supporting the Gay Agenda! I need to stop watching these videos and go do some praying!"

edited 22nd Jun '18 9:00:12 AM by TobiasDrake

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246605: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:06:20 AM

[up]While it's true that the people who are already convinced are not going to be swayed they are not the one's that good propaganda is aimed at. Rather you target the moderates and people who are on the fence, they can be swayed and I imagine that is the aim of those anti-LGBT propaganda.

I'm not necessarily saying that it's going to be effective but there is a legitimate strategic reason to target such videos.

edited 22nd Jun '18 9:07:00 AM by Fourthspartan56

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#246606: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:17:53 AM

So apparently Young Trump staffers are shunned by the entire rest of DC, and have settled into "Safe Spaces", where they can get away from the constant hostility. [1]

Washington is a hipper city now than it’s ever been, a place where staffers, especially young staffers who want to drink and date and live normal millennial lives, would want to live. The problem is, if you work for Trump, it’s also more hostile territory than it’s ever been. The president campaigned against the very idea of “Washington,” slammed cities as “war zones” and ran a racially charged campaign whose coded messages weren’t lost on the diverse, Democratic-leaning residents of D.C.’s buzzing neighborhoods. The bar-filled areas that became synonymous with young Washington in the Obama era—Columbia Heights, Shaw, U Street, H Street—are full of anti-Trump T-shirts and street art. Even old Republican redoubts like Spring Valley in upper Northwest aren’t very Trump-friendly.

So, what’s a young Trumpie to do? Many still do live in D.C., and to understand what their lives here are like, we interviewed more than 30 millennial staffers from the Trump White House and across the administration, both current and former (many have already left), as well as a smattering of their friends and outside observers. Nearly all spoke on the condition of anonymity, to talk candidly about their personal lives or because they were not authorized by their bosses to comment. They told us their horror stories about being heckled on the street and their struggles to get a date. Unlike their predecessors, who made their mark on the city’s social scene, they largely keep to themselves, more likely to hop between intimate apartment gatherings than to hit the town. “Instead of folks looking outward,” explains one young White House aide, “more folks look inward.”

Faced with open antagonism, Trump’s millennials over the past year and a half have quietly settled on the margins: a stretch of Washington that spans from the Wharf—a shiny new development three blocks south of the National Mall—southeast along the Waterfront and into Navy Yard, on the banks of the Anacostia River. It’s a string of neighborhoods that peer out over the water, separated from most of the city by an interstate, and facing away from official Washington. It’s a bubble within the Washington bubble: Here, young Trump staffers mix largely with each other and enjoy the view from their rooftop pools, where they can feel far away from the District’s locals and the rest of its political class.

When the Trump crowd ventures beyond those sprawling new apartment buildings, they tend toward eateries more upscale, conventional and close to work. The bar and steakhouse at the Trump International Hotel, of course, offer the most obvious safe space. Perhaps even more so than their predecessors, Trump’s young staffers also rely on old standbys near the White House: POV, the rooftop bar at the W Hotel that overlooks the White House; Old Ebbitt Grill, a quintessential antebellum Washington establishment; and Joe’s, a seafood and steak spot, are favorites. So are the nearby restaurant-bar The Hamilton and Blackfinn, a gastropub off Farragut Square. Some staffers prefer the Exchange Saloon, a no-frills sports bar just west of the White House. One young former Health and Human Services official confides that Rebellion, a Southern-themed establishment farther north, near U Street, is “one of the few closet Trump bars” in town.

They even have a hard time getting dates

When it comes to disclosing their affiliation with Trump, no ground is more fraught than courtship. “Trump supporters swipe left”—meaning “don’t even bother trying”—might be the single most common disclaimer on dating app profiles in Washington.

One beleaguered 31-year-old female administration official described at length her “very, very frequent” scraps with her matches on dating apps. “You do the small talk thing, and you have a very good conversation, and then they might say, ‘You didn’t vote for Trump, right?’” she says. “As soon as I say, ‘Of course I did,’ it just devolves into all-caps ‘HOW COULD YOU BE SUCH A RACIST AND A BIGOT?’ And ‘You’re going to take away your own birth control.’” In one recent star-crossed exchange, the official told a match she worked for the federal government. When he pushed, she revealed she was in the administration. He asked her, “Do you rip babies from their mothers and then send them to Mexico?”

Evasive answers will get you only so far, though, since many dating apps provide enough information for inquisitive users to sleuth out their matches’ identities. “I literally got the other day, ‘Thanks but no thanks. Just Googled you and it said you were a mouthpiece for the Trump administration. Go fuck yourself,’” says the official. It’s all enough to drive her and some of her colleagues away from at least some of the apps. “I’m no longer on Bumble,” she says.

Young staffers have had to develop a keen sense of just when to have “The Talk” with romantic partners. “I’ve still been able to hook up with women,” says a male former White House staffer. “But I know that I need to be careful about broaching the Trump stuff. I just know that going in, I need to be able to get it out at the right time and not get it out too early to the point where it’s like, ‘Hey, I worked for Trump, you should stop talking to me,’ but late enough in that eventually they know that there is this information floating out there that I worked for this guy and hopefully you have now seen that I’m not a horrible person and we can go further with this.”

edited 22nd Jun '18 9:18:20 AM by megaeliz

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#246607: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:18:28 AM

Good thing I use adblocker.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#246608: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:22:05 AM

I feel like making gay people feel bad would be worth the money for most Republicans. Either virulent scum like Pence, or pearl-clutching Midwestern moms who just don't agree with the lifestyle, you know, they must want kids at some point, it's probably just a phase.

It's been fun.
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#246609: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:22:49 AM

[up][up][up]Excuse me while I play the world's smallest violin for these poor souls.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246610: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:24:26 AM

[up][up]While they're certainly motivated by that at-least slightly it would be a mistake to deny their ability to think strategically, underestimating an enemy is a great way to court disaster.

[up]How tragic, my heart bleeds for them smile

edited 22nd Jun '18 9:25:01 AM by Fourthspartan56

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#246611: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:24:45 AM

What Crimson said.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
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#246612: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:25:38 AM

Poetic justice is poetic.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#246613: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:27:49 AM

Little Snowflakes who can't leave their conservative Bubble Safe Space, for fear of ridicule.

Did I do that right?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246614: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:30:30 AM

Concerning the Trump staffers...

...I've been using this one a lot lately.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246615: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:34:51 AM

But seriously that's wonderful, all of society should be like that for Trump supporters and other similar reactionaries.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#246617: Jun 22nd 2018 at 9:40:04 AM

Womp fucking womp.

EDIT: [nja]

edited 22nd Jun '18 9:40:11 AM by Reflextion

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#246618: Jun 22nd 2018 at 10:08:13 AM

I just figured out what "Space Force" primary job will be!

Cleaning up all the space debris we left in orbit.

edited 22nd Jun '18 10:08:45 AM by megaeliz

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Call me Stick
#246619: Jun 22nd 2018 at 10:25:54 AM

That's... actually not a horrible idea, but I'm pretty sure it's not what they're going for.

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246620: Jun 22nd 2018 at 10:30:10 AM

@ Trump Staffers

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#246621: Jun 22nd 2018 at 10:31:45 AM

I don't feel bad for the Trump staffers but i'm pretty sure the GOP could use this hostility towards them to play the victim card.

edited 22nd Jun '18 10:32:28 AM by Kaiseror

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246622: Jun 22nd 2018 at 10:32:55 AM

[up] They play the victim card if someone sneezes in their direction. They're fucking thin-skinned asshats.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246623: Jun 22nd 2018 at 10:56:28 AM

When I was a teenage dumbass, I used to assume that if you extended free speech and the right to refuse service, you would see a proper pushback.

But no, the racists and bigots want to be able to do whatever they want and never deal with any consequences.

They also don't want to ever deal with anyone else having their own opinion.

Because why? Duh, the stunningly obvious point I once missed, THEY ARE BAD PEOPLE.

edited 22nd Jun '18 10:56:42 AM by CharlesPhipps

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#246624: Jun 22nd 2018 at 11:23:10 AM

An important stage of growing up is recognizing that not everything can be packaged in neat little boxes of "Good" and "Evil".

Another important stage of growing up is recognizing that some things absolutely can be.

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