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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246576: Jun 21st 2018 at 11:49:38 PM

[up] ...Depends on how far you take it. Lenin was no saint even if he was no Stalin.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#246577: Jun 21st 2018 at 11:53:39 PM

One can say Lenin was better than Stalin. One can say that he sincerely seems to have meant well, in contrast to many of the other tyrants of the twentieth century. But that's about as far as you can take it.

edited 21st Jun '18 11:53:53 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#246578: Jun 22nd 2018 at 12:22:40 AM

[up]

I go by "Lenin's policies were milder compared to Stalin's sheer bloodthirst."

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246579: Jun 22nd 2018 at 12:42:14 AM

Which is pretty much Damned by Faint Praise.

edited 22nd Jun '18 12:42:32 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246580: Jun 22nd 2018 at 12:43:59 AM

Lenin committed mass murder, arguably betrayed his nation multiple times (for what he perceived as the greater good), threatened people's families, and ruthlessly tried to purge religion.

He was a monster.

It's just Stalin's ruthlessness, callousness, and brutality were beyond his by far.

Stalin pretty much is the real life Eviler than Thou for how he took over the Soviet Union.

edited 22nd Jun '18 12:44:58 AM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246581: Jun 22nd 2018 at 12:47:12 AM

I also hope that whatever Leftist movement appears in the USA also avoids blaming all of Venezuela's problems on the USA.

Disgusted, but not surprised
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#246582: Jun 22nd 2018 at 12:59:52 AM

@Last Page

I'm down for increasing the Leftwing presence in America. Fact is, when one of the two major parties is almost entirely far-right, the other party has to take in everyone else on the spectrum from some moderate right, center-right, center, center-left, moderate-left, and the very rare far left. I'm sure there's plenty of people who would be fantastic politicians, but they can't really get into politics because the Republicans are fucking crazy and the Democrats are too diluted and full. No more room in the sane party.

Personally, I think the Republicans should be destroyed and the Democrats should split into two moderate political parties. I know there was talk of implementing a maximum wage limit somewhere in Europe, which is a really far-left policy, and I really want that idea to be able to be brought to the table here without the same party presenting it shutting it down because the range of politics is too wide.

edited 22nd Jun '18 1:01:58 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#246584: Jun 22nd 2018 at 2:54:16 AM

Well.

Apparently one of the guys in charge of Trump's Concentration Camps was found to have child porn on his person. There's a citation coming due to the people in charge not looking into this properly.

Leave it to Trump to put Dirlewanger in charge.

Not even surprised any more. Just see M84's signature.

edited 22nd Jun '18 2:55:02 AM by NickTheSwing

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246585: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:06:42 AM

So just recently we had one camp accused of drugging children, another one that had a drug addict criminal watching over them to a judge's horror, and now we've got a camp that is being run by a pedophile.

What next on this neverending train of horrors?

But really, what else can you expect from an administration that treats these people as an "infestation"?

edited 22nd Jun '18 3:08:21 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#246586: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:13:36 AM

A camp run by a child trafficking ring? Brainwashing? A camp that isn't just run by a creep, but is actively used by them?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#246587: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:17:34 AM

Oh wow, it just hit me that it's the South African "total strategy" all over again.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#246588: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:19:28 AM

I wonder if vigilante groups will be formed in response to camps,or at leasy existing groups consider the camps a target especially since children are involved

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#246589: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:21:19 AM

[up]

From what I heard some ICE agents in the camps were doxxed. Not sure how far that went though.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#246590: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:31:45 AM

Yeah,I heard websites were removing doxxing information in response

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#246591: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:32:59 AM

And so the Pizzagate scandal becomes ironic once again.

I hope that all of these people rot in hell.

Do not obey in advance.
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#246592: Jun 22nd 2018 at 3:54:32 AM

...hm...what could be worse...

It seems the abject worst of society has come together to command these wretched camps.

But who could be worse than Trump's stand in for Deranged Dirlewanger

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#246594: Jun 22nd 2018 at 5:18:21 AM

Some random Stormfront poster with basic (if that) organizational skills and superficial charisma.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#246595: Jun 22nd 2018 at 6:55:50 AM

Rosenstein is still standing his ground.

House Rs tell me that Rod Rosenstein still has not fully complied with their request for documents — ranging from records on Clinton email probe to FISA records of Trump associates including Carter Page. Contempt still very much on table if he doesn't comply by week's end.

This would almost certainly backfire on them though.

If they pursue contempt, Rosenstein would have the right to mount a defense, and that could end up backfiring for Congressional Republicans. They should tread lightly. [1]

Staffers for Devin Nunes apparently threatened to hold Rod Rosenstein in Contempt of Congress in a recent meeting. He told them if they did, he would have the right to subpoena their communications and put them on the witness stand to prove them wrong. He's 100% right about that.

If that's what happened, Nunes' staffers should not have felt personally attacked. Rosenstein was just telling them the consequences of taking a very foolish action against him. He has a right to due process, and during that process, the facts matter. [2]

His eventual book will be fancinating, I think.

edited 22nd Jun '18 7:07:51 AM by megaeliz

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#246596: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:12:47 AM

So I just got another ad from "Trump Make America Great Again Committee" before a YouTube video (ironically one that's criticizing him, so go figure), but the linked survey was, once again, the "Mainstream Media Accountability" survey So I'm encouraging people to give him the answers he doesn't want - just make sure to use a "dump" email address because I guarantee you'll be getting fundraising requests after filling it out. The reason I'm resharing here, though, was the final question - "Do you believe that our Party should spend more time and resources holding the mainstream media accountable?" That's why I feel it's important to fill out the survey with answers he doesn't like - that way he won't even be able to fall back on THAT when trying to request a renewal of the Alien & Sedition Act from the early 1800s.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#246597: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:23:47 AM

This administration will either discard results they don't want, make fake ones (see: the FCC, or just go ahead and do it anyway (again, see: the FCC). Any results Trump can't print onto his toiler paper for his daily ass-kissing are getting thrown into the digital void.

It's been fun.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246598: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:25:27 AM

Yeah I'm not going to waste my time partaking in their survey, it's pointless.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#246599: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:28:28 AM

I can hear my old Researcher Methods and Economics prof cussing in Polish right now. That survey isn't even trying.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#246600: Jun 22nd 2018 at 8:33:53 AM

[up]Any questionnaire designer would curse. In Analysese. In red pen, even.


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