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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#246377: Jun 20th 2018 at 3:34:39 PM

Contempt of Court when?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246378: Jun 20th 2018 at 3:39:02 PM

It's the crazyness of the administration.

The complete lack of consequences.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#246379: Jun 20th 2018 at 3:42:30 PM

Buddy does realize that he needs to ask and receive a stay for the ruling not to go into force while he appeals, right?

...Right?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#246381: Jun 20th 2018 at 3:45:34 PM

[up]x2 He either doesn't (considering how poorly he handled the case, it wouldn't surprise me) or he does and doesn't care.

Either way, he needs some jail time. Ignorance of the law doesn't excuse breaking it.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#246382: Jun 20th 2018 at 4:54:24 PM

[up]

From the article...

Danedri Herbert, a spokeswoman for Kobach, told the news outlet that state officials still need time to fully understand the court’s ruling on the law. She argued that the judge did not provide a clear timeline for when Kobach had to instruct county clerks to implement the policy.

“I think ‘immediately’ is kind of open to interpretation,” she told the Capital-Journal.

That is an even worse attempt at My Rule Fu Is Stronger than Yours than Clinton with "definition of 'is' is".

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#246383: Jun 20th 2018 at 4:56:04 PM

So uh...that EO that Trump just signed...not only will it not do anything long term since it'll run afoul of the Flores agreement. It also makes no provision for reuniting the several thousand kids already separated from their parents. It's fucking useless.

edited 20th Jun '18 4:56:48 PM by nightwyrm_zero

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246384: Jun 20th 2018 at 4:57:18 PM

So uh...that EO that Trump just signed...not only it won't do anything long term since it'll run afoul of the Flores agreement. It also makes no provision for reuniting the several thousand kids already separated from their parents. It's fucking useless.

Thankfully, the Facebook campaign money raised will be paying the bail for quite a large number of the parents and reuniting them.

edited 20th Jun '18 4:58:00 PM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#246385: Jun 20th 2018 at 5:04:49 PM

[up]Depending on the age of the child and whether detailed records were kept (something I doubt very much), it may literally be impossible to reunite parent and child, especially if the parent has already been deported.

This entire clusterfuck is a shitshow and it's infuriating.

edited 20th Jun '18 5:06:35 PM by nightwyrm_zero

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246386: Jun 20th 2018 at 5:06:05 PM

Which is another point of legal fees.

The situation is going to be fucking awful and I'm sure there have already been abuses above and beyond what's been reported, if not deaths.

But the situation has a few hope spots. I just hope they're not a Hope Spot.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#246387: Jun 20th 2018 at 5:32:40 PM

With the fact that there's at least three beauracratic organizations involved and none of them have any way of communicating clearly with each other, and no way of keeping track across these organizations, this is going to be a project of years. And that's not even talking about the parents that have already been deported back to their home countries while their children remain here, being taken care of by American taxpayer money. There's kids here that aren't ever going to see their parents again because of this ridiculously cruel and massively incompetently implemented policy.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#246388: Jun 20th 2018 at 5:37:41 PM

Hell, 6000 kids have already been "lost" by Trump's servers from before he started locking them up.

Remember when it was 1500?

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#246389: Jun 20th 2018 at 5:48:45 PM

In less Nazi-like but just as fucked up news, White House proposes plan to merge Department of Education and Department of Labour.

Department of Child Labour would be a wonderful name. /s

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#246390: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:00:40 PM

I'm sure trump would love to implement child labor.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#246391: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:01:42 PM

[up][up]...You know, I joked about striking wages and turning everyone into serfs a few pages back, but now I'm not sure if I should be laughing. Seriously, if unpaid labor is the only thing a kid knows growing up, then why would they think there's anything wrong with that when they're actually grown up?

edited 20th Jun '18 6:34:58 PM by kkhohoho

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#246392: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:02:49 PM

[up][up][up]I HATE this administration. A few years ago I would have been certain that this would never get off the ground but now, i'm genuinely worried.

edited 20th Jun '18 6:03:29 PM by Kaiseror

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#246393: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:05:22 PM

Now every time I think "how can this get worse" another part if me says "it WILL get worse"

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
RazgrizX Since: Apr, 2011
#246394: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:12:37 PM

So shouldn't his approval ratings start plummeting soon considering he's literally locking up children? I feel like they should, any reason why they wouldn't besides still (apparently) doing fine?

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#246395: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:14:14 PM

[up] It will take a bit to set in, but yes, this should be a blow to his approval rating.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#246396: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:14:58 PM

[up][up]IIRC it's too soon for the effect to be felt yet at the polls, and the people who like him are mostly just Republicans and are unlikely to dislike him over this.

edited 20th Jun '18 6:15:07 PM by Fourthspartan56

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246397: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:19:26 PM

[up][up][up][up] Way ahead of you there. There is no bottom to the depravity of this administration.

Disgusted, but not surprised
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#246398: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:34:24 PM

What Tropers/M84 said.

Do not obey in advance.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246399: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:37:14 PM

Well, I guess now we know what this administration wants to do with the kids who are still separated from their parents.

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#246400: Jun 20th 2018 at 6:58:58 PM

[up]As well as those who aren't. And white kids. And black kids. And asian kids. And...

edited 20th Jun '18 6:59:07 PM by kkhohoho


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