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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#246076: Jun 18th 2018 at 7:55:28 PM

It's still weird to think that Cruz has only been around since 2012.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#246077: Jun 18th 2018 at 7:56:01 PM

Honestly, as bad as Trump's been, I'm not sure I'd really want to see how America would look under Cruz.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246078: Jun 18th 2018 at 7:56:39 PM

[up][up]It sure didn't take him long to gain a (well-deserved) reputation for being a slimeball.

[up] Hence why I felt sick when I realized that the GOP's candidate was going to be either Trump or Cruz.

edited 18th Jun '18 7:59:36 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#246079: Jun 18th 2018 at 7:59:22 PM

MSNBC is reporting that a town hall from February 2nd 2017 that discussed a number of policies to deter immigration, including the "separate the families" idea. And yes, all immigration, including those legally seeking asylum in the US.

The ideas included holding people indefinitely (rejected for logistical reasons, because no shit, Sherlock), they wanted to hold children in custody for longer than 20 days (a previous Federal court decision kiboshed that one), and they're currently pushing to raise the bar to pass the asylum interview.

edited 18th Jun '18 8:01:54 PM by ironballs16

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#246080: Jun 18th 2018 at 8:00:07 PM

I’ll be voting for O’Rourke come November.

The less said about Texas politics the better. If you think guys like Cruz are bad you should see the local politicians because there are people in office here who make David Icke look sane.

They should have sent a poet.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246081: Jun 18th 2018 at 8:01:21 PM

[up] Not too surprised by this. Local politicians tend to be either somewhat more reasonable or way more extreme compared to the ones on the national level. It's a consequence of being beholden to fewer people.

edited 18th Jun '18 8:01:42 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#246083: Jun 18th 2018 at 8:08:12 PM

Oh, and here's a fun one that slipped under my radar, though the link I posted last alluded to it.

Jeff Sessions announced a policy on June 11th stating that gang violence and domestic abuse will not be considered grounds for asylum seeking unless the applicant can prove that their government was either complicit in it or turned a blind eye to it.

I plan on giving an earful to Katko's office tomorrow...

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#246084: Jun 18th 2018 at 8:08:38 PM

[up][up][up] There's a sheriff a county over from me who has made countering Sharia law a primary objective of his department. I'm pretty sure there's not a single Muslim in his jurisdiction.

edited 18th Jun '18 8:08:45 PM by archonspeaks

They should have sent a poet.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246085: Jun 18th 2018 at 8:12:36 PM

[up]

I'm pretty sure there's not a single Muslim in his jurisdiction.

He's presumably doing this to make sure it stays that way.

edited 18th Jun '18 8:12:54 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#246086: Jun 18th 2018 at 8:55:31 PM

[up][up][up]So basically we're very concerned about all these MS13s running amok, unless they're just a danger to foreigners, in which case they should have thought of that before being born outside the US.

edited 18th Jun '18 8:56:21 PM by rikalous

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#246087: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:21:49 AM

A bipartisan group of former federal prosecutors is denouncing the family separation policy.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/politics/us-attorneys-letter-jeff-sessions/index.html

Meanwhile, Trump is Tweeting that illegal immigrants are "infesting" America.

Infesting.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DeathorCake Since: Mar, 2016
#246088: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:33:55 AM

[up]

I think he's possibly confused non-orange humans with The Zerg. Maybe he played Wings of Liberty up to that Meinhoff mission this morning.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#246089: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:35:24 AM

I am reminded of Nazi parlance, which also used pest control terminology to describe groups they wanted to get rid of.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#246091: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:37:27 AM

1)There are no camps.

2) There are camps but they're used as a deterrent for people that break the law.

3) The camps aren't that bad, actually.

Literally, all 3 excuses were used by the Third Reich at some point.

This is getting dangerously scary

edited 19th Jun '18 7:37:49 AM by TacticalFox88

New Survey coming this weekend!
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#246092: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:41:43 AM

I was wondering what happens to the parents and the children after they get separated on the border. Do they usually get reunited and then deported together, are some allowed into the US?

Life is unfair...
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#246093: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:45:49 AM

It's very likely when the parents separated from the children.the children disappear into the system

Scary indeed

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#246094: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:45:54 AM

This hasn’t been going on long enough for any cases to reach a conclusion, they’ll be being held in custody for years.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#246095: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:48:27 AM

I was wondering when he'd outright start calling these people vermin.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#246096: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:48:59 AM

I'm going to be the one to say it:

When this is all done, everyone who participated in this, needs the American equivalent of Nuremberg.

Any candidate in 2020 that is anything less of full blown scorched earth against the Trump administration and prosecuting them is a fuck no for me supporting them in the primary.

New Survey coming this weekend!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#246097: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:53:48 AM

Yeah,the blue wave couldn't come soon enough

But who is the candidate to support for 2020,I don't think they've come up with one yet,which is worrying

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#246098: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:53:48 AM

[up]Stay practical, you can't administer justice without regaining power first.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#246099: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:55:06 AM

My previous post was directed at Tactical Fox, I got precision [nja]'d and can't edit that one.

Also, stopping atrocities is more important in the short term than going after the perps.

edited 19th Jun '18 7:55:36 AM by Rationalinsanity

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DeathorCake Since: Mar, 2016
#246100: Jun 19th 2018 at 7:59:51 AM

[up]x8

I'm really not sure the authorities are recording parent-child links, not if they're just throwing kids into literal cages. The longer this goes on the more will be permanently separated.

[up]x4

Now now, don't make Nazi comparisons about the literal concentration camps, because that would be mean. Sessions responds to Nazi comparisons: 'They were keeping the Jews from leaving'

To avoid accusations of Godwining, maybe compare them to the British Boer War camps instead? They seem somewhat close in purpose and although us Brits were mildly gentler than the SS it wasn't by much. Didn't set out to kill thousands of people, we just didn't give a damn that we did. [1]


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