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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#245701: Jun 14th 2018 at 6:34:12 PM

So in a “you’re fucking kidding me!” moment for everyone, I just discovered some more info from the DOJ internal report. When Comey was investigating Hillary he did some some improper practices, while he’s been cleared of major things one item did come up.

He used a personal email account to conduct official FBI business.

edited 14th Jun '18 6:34:33 PM by Silasw

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#245702: Jun 14th 2018 at 6:36:28 PM

It's almost as if personal email is somehow much more convenient to use and no one is actually enforcing any guidelines or rules about how official messages regarding governmental work is delivered.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#245703: Jun 14th 2018 at 6:40:31 PM

HRC responded

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#245704: Jun 14th 2018 at 6:44:36 PM

[up] Goddamn, Hillary deserves to be retconned into being the real 45th POTUS, just on that one Tweet alone.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#245705: Jun 14th 2018 at 6:49:26 PM

Ever since I heard about Chaffetz using personal email while condemning HRC for it, I was wondering who else giving HRC shit for it was doing the same thing.

I'm guessing the answer is "everyone".

Disgusted, but not surprised
RainingMetal (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#245706: Jun 14th 2018 at 6:51:12 PM

HRC was more self-aware than I gave her credit for. Bravo.

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Kakuzan Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to. from Knock knock, open up the door, it's real. Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to.
#245707: Jun 14th 2018 at 6:55:21 PM

And of course people will spin this as her being bitter. Even if she is, when the people who gave her crap about the emails did literally the same thing, she has every right to be incredibly bitter. Trumpy likes to go off on his persecution complex induced rants about how there is a witch hunt out to get him, but it becomes more and more blatantly clear that if anything, there was a longstanding witch hunt against HRC.

Don't catch you slippin' now.
TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#245708: Jun 14th 2018 at 7:08:13 PM

[up]x5 I'd have gone "but his emails" to make it a "proper" Ironic Echo, but that's still pretty good.

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#245709: Jun 14th 2018 at 7:14:46 PM

Well, the Tubman change is "delayed" into the next Presidency.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#245710: Jun 14th 2018 at 7:34:34 PM

Some very local news. The Massachusetts state Senate just unanimously passed a agressive clean energy bill, after a lengthy debate on amendments. It's actually pretty cool. It literally just happened, so I don't have any press release yet, but here's the state's website

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#245711: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:06:19 PM

So did people know Trump is being sued by New York for stealing money from his own children's cancer charities?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

The New York State attorney general’s office filed a scathingly worded lawsuit on Thursday taking aim at the Donald J. Trump Foundation, accusing the charity and the Trump family of sweeping violations of campaign finance laws, self-dealing and illegal coordination with the presidential campaign.

The lawsuit, which seeks to dissolve the foundation and bar President Trump and three of his children from serving on nonprofit organizations, was an extraordinary rebuke of a sitting president. The attorney general also sent referral letters to the Internal Revenue Service and the Federal Election Commission for possible further action, adding to Mr. Trump’s extensive legal challenges.

The lawsuit, filed in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, culminated a nearly two-year investigation of Mr. Trump’s charity, which became a subject of scrutiny during and after the 2016 presidential campaign. While such foundations are supposed to be devoted to charitable activities, the petition asserts that Mr. Trump’s was often improperly used to settle legal claims against his various businesses, even spending $10,000 on a portrait of Mr. Trump that was hung at one of his golf clubs.

The foundation was also used to curry political favor, the lawsuit asserts. During the 2016 race, the foundation became a virtual arm of Mr. Trump’s campaign, email traffic showed, with his campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, directing its expenditures, even though such foundations are explicitly prohibited from political activities.

edited 14th Jun '18 8:08:06 PM by CharlesPhipps

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#245712: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:07:45 PM

Yes, it was mentioned a few pages back.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#245713: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:08:19 PM

So much evil, so little time to discuss it.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#245714: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:11:46 PM

I'm... morbidly eager to see what hoops the Trumpbots will jump through to rationalise this one.

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#245715: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:16:10 PM

Dont insult robots, they arent that smart or practical. If the GOP thought like robots, the world would be better.

Robots are innocents.

edited 14th Jun '18 8:17:10 PM by KazuyaProta

Watch me destroying my country
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#245716: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:21:14 PM

Well...there are actual bots spreading Trump propaganda.

That the GOP automatically defaults to the logic of "Trump good, everyone else bad!" is a problem.

edited 14th Jun '18 8:24:43 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#245717: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:23:54 PM

[up][up] Well played.

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#245718: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:25:03 PM

Standard Trumpbot logic:

10 Defend Trump
20 Insult Liberals
30 But Emails
40 GOTO 10

Disgusted, but not surprised
FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#245719: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:27:49 PM

I don't get the last one. tongue

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#245720: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:31:20 PM

[up] Basically it's on a loop.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#245721: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:34:43 PM

Insert M84's sig here

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#245722: Jun 14th 2018 at 8:36:58 PM

I mean, Trump stealing from children suffering from cancer was already something that was suspected a couple years back. This suit just means that they think they've finally gotten enough evidence to make a case.

Shit like that was actually one of the reasons I started thinking about changing my sig to what it is now. When I first heard it, I realized that as disgusted as it made me feel...I wasn't actually shocked at the idea that Trump would do this.

edited 14th Jun '18 8:38:14 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#245723: Jun 14th 2018 at 11:18:30 PM

@ Karkat: Warren Harding was a terrible president, but he doesn't seem nearly as nasty a person as Donald Trump. The only bad thing on his personal character that sticks out is his constant adultery, including a mistress in her 20s when he was in his 50s...though I suppose that's more ethical than Jefferson's relationship with Sally Hemings or a strong possibility Grover Cleveland raped Maria Halpen along with putting her into an asylum

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#245724: Jun 14th 2018 at 11:28:59 PM

I remember Boardwalk Empire portrayed his mistress as delusional and a stalker.

Except DNA evidence now proves their relationship was real.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#245725: Jun 15th 2018 at 2:39:49 AM

[up]In most of recorded history, you can be pretty sure that "the hysterical female stalker flinging unsubstantiated mud for a pay out" was neither hysterical, totally lying, simply flinging mud nor in it solely for a pay out. Stalking, however, may vary.

Makes one wonder about Rhodes, honestly.


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