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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#245426: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:34:37 PM

I did vote for Hillary Clinton but I have never been a fan of her.

I would, however, like to elect a woman for 2020.

Which is perhaps sexist as it ignores the qualifications of the candidate but it's about time too.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#245427: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:34:48 PM

x5[up] Sorry, that was just a thought of mine kicked out by that previous post. Also, not sure what country that is.

edited 12th Jun '18 5:35:19 PM by SciFiSlasher

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#245428: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:38:07 PM

I've honestly been wondering what WWIII would look like under Trump.

It wouldn't be anything shocking, like the US suddenly allying with Russia and North Korea. If anything it would more or less follow the lines you'd expect, its main feature would be that it was easily avoidable to begin with.

Trump isn't going to rewrite a century of foreign policy, he's just gonna screw up or be manipulated and blunder his way into something really bad.

They should have sent a poet.
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#245429: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:40:18 PM

"I've honestly been wondering what WWIII would look like under Trump."

Reading It Can't Happen Here and/or The Plot Against America should provide a pretty good illustration.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#245430: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:43:02 PM

> Meanwhile in that scenario apparently Britain has become Atlantis.

britannia rules the waves and the sea as now!

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#245431: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:48:10 PM

Or else it will go the way of Code Geass and America will conquer the UK and rule a fascistic empire called Britania.

FergardStratoavis A Fluff Ringer from Bellveins (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
A Fluff Ringer
#245432: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:50:04 PM

[up] x5 It's Poland. We'd have to contend with Russia bombarding us from the backyard if the unthinkable happens before we could go on to join some strange alliances.

I do apologize for a heated response.

edited 12th Jun '18 5:50:23 PM by FergardStratoavis

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Nero Fangirl
#245433: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:52:55 PM

[up][up] Code Geass is the other way around. Britannia is because Britain never lost the colonies but instead lost, uh, Britain. Of all things.

Weird world, that.

Lorsty Since: Feb, 2010
#245434: Jun 12th 2018 at 5:53:13 PM

ITT: people thinking Mexico would grow the cojones to stand up to the USA.

In reality we'd (try and fail to) declare neutrality and then join the USA in the fight against the whole world while doing the bare minimum but still trying to remain friends with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan the Allies.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#245435: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:14:39 PM

If WW3 happens and Trump has us join the axis i'm joining The Resistance (or starting one if nobody else has).

TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#245436: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:16:12 PM

Probably.

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#245437: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:21:08 PM

Concerning Warren...

The reason some soured on her was because she at one point went along with the "DNC rigged the primaries" narrative.

That was a while ago though, and she hasn't really said anything else like that recently. Heck, my own memory of this is a bit fuzzy.

edited 12th Jun '18 6:21:42 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#245438: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:37:54 PM

ITT: people thinking Mexico would grow the cojones to stand up to the USA. In reality we'd (try and fail to) declare neutrality and then join the USA in the fight against the whole world while doing the bare minimum but still trying to remain friends with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan the Allies.

Oh, come now! Mexico can be like the USSR in WWII!

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#245439: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:48:25 PM

If WWIII breaks out, I highly doubt that multicellular life would be able to survive beyond a month or two, much less an axis of evil or an alliance of free nations.

And that would be a mercy compared to the tyranny the world would undoubtedly suffer through if the war doesn't go nuclear.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#245440: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:48:28 PM

Nunes and Rosenstein duke it out (not really though)

Rosenstein plans to call on House to investigate its own staff

Washington (CNN) Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's ongoing battle with House Republicans reached new heights Tuesday, as the No. 2 senior leader of the Justice Department plans to call on the House to investigate its own committee staff.

Rosenstein has butted heads with House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes for months over a subpoena for documents related to the Russia investigation, but the battle spilled out into public view Tuesday after Fox News reported staff on the committee felt "personally attacked" at a meeting with Rosenstein in January.

Justice Department officials dispute the recounting of the closed-door meeting detailed in the story, and Rosenstein now plans to "request that the House general counsel conduct an internal investigation of these Congressional staffers' conduct" when he returns from a foreign trip this week, a Justice Department official said.

"The Deputy Attorney General never threatened anyone in the room with a criminal investigation," the official said. "The FBI Director, the senior career ethics adviser for the Department, and the Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs who were all present at this meeting are all quite clear that the characterization of events laid out here is false.

"The Deputy Attorney General was making the point — after being threatened with contempt — that as an American citizen charged with the offense of contempt of Congress, he would have the right to defend himself, including requesting production of relevant emails and text messages and calling them as witnesses to demonstrate that their allegations are false," the official added. "That is why he put them on notice to retain relevant emails and text messages, and he hopes they did so."

Another former US official, also present at the meeting, agreed that at no time did Rosenstein threaten any House staff with a criminal investigation.

Later Tuesday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions came to Rosenstein's defense during an interview with Fox News, saying he was "confident that Deputy Rosenstein, after 28 years in the Department of Justice, did not improperly threaten anyone on that occasion."

Sessions said he wasn't in the room but that FBI Director Christopher Wray and the Justice Department's senior ethics official were there and didn't see it "in the same fashion," further emphasizing the extent to which the Justice Department has tried "to be cooperative" with Capitol Hill "as the months have gone by."

When asked directly about the meeting, Nunes declined to comment, telling CNN: "Man, you always try, don't you."

The DOJ official said that no formal complaint about Rosenstein's conduct has ever been filed with the House general counsel or inspector general to his knowledge.

While Rosenstein and Nunes have been trading barbs for months over the California Republican's document requests, the two nevertheless went to dinner with a mutual friend on the evening of the January meeting.

Nunes never raised Rosenstein's conduct that evening, the official added.

Renato Mariotti's take:

Staffers for Devin Nunes apparently threatened to hold Rod Rosenstein in Contempt of Congress in a recent meeting. He told them if they did, he would have the right to subpoena their communications and put them on the witness stand to prove them wrong. He's 100% right about that.

If that's what happened, Nunes' staffers should not have felt personally attacked. Rosenstein was just telling them the consequences of taking a very foolish action against him. He has a right to due process, and during that process, the facts matter.

edited 12th Jun '18 6:51:31 PM by megaeliz

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#245441: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:50:28 PM

[up][up] Life would definitely survive. Humans would probably survive. We just wouldn't really like the world we ended up with.

Realistically, though, there are a lot of ways a major war could break out without a nuclear exchange. That's a worst case scenario for everyone.

edited 12th Jun '18 6:51:53 PM by archonspeaks

They should have sent a poet.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#245442: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:52:14 PM

Code Geass is the other way around. Britannia is because Britain never lost the colonies but instead lost, uh, Britain. Of all things.
And to Napoleonic France, out of all the possible countries that could've been chosen to do it.

Weird world, that.
And to think that Code Geass canon asserts it it's all thanks to the Celtic tribes of Britain managing to elect a "super-king" to lead their alliance against the Roman invasions under Julius Caesar, which they end up fending off.note  How such a small divergence is supposedly all takes to birth a world-conquering empire almost two millennia later is quite confounding.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#245443: Jun 12th 2018 at 6:52:17 PM

[up]x4 I'm sorry

Although, Russia has compared it's new Information Weapon to the impact of the A-Bomb, in it's ability to completely change the game, so there's that.

edited 12th Jun '18 6:58:31 PM by megaeliz

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#245444: Jun 12th 2018 at 7:04:19 PM

Any interesting news from today's primaries?

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#245445: Jun 12th 2018 at 7:08:39 PM

I’ve been out the last few days. Anyone care to link me to Ambar’s much beloved post? I missed it.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#245446: Jun 12th 2018 at 7:10:20 PM

@Trash Jack: Multicellular life could easily survive a nuclear war. Earth's been through many disasters that would make a nuclear war look pleasant by comparison, including asteroids and possibly even gamma ray bursts.

In fact, some organisms would benefit from a nuclear war because some thrive in such conditions and it would halt human industry for a while.

Humans in particular would probably survive as we eat just about everything and live just about everywhere.

And no, extinction is not preferable to tyranny. The slave can be freed, the dead do not rise. Tyrannies come and go.

Leviticus 19:34
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#245447: Jun 12th 2018 at 7:14:54 PM

And no, extinction is not preferable to tyranny. The slave can be freed, the dead do not rise. Tyrannies come and go.

Potentially they can be or maybe they can be forever twisted.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#245449: Jun 12th 2018 at 7:30:27 PM

Any interesting news from today's primaries?

  • Two Teapublicans (Mark Sanford of South Carolina, and Nick Freitas of Virginia) lost to Trumpeteer Republicans (Katie Arrington and Corey Stewart).
  • The Republican Senate Candidate in Maine, Eric Brakey, who is going against Ind. Angus King, has a video of him doing the Harlem Shake in a speedo going around the Internet now.
  • State Senate-1 in Wisconsin is a flip, with Caleb Frostman (D) taking the seat.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#245450: Jun 12th 2018 at 7:32:10 PM

Two Teapublicans (Mark Sanford of South Carolina, and Nick Freitas of Virginia) lost to Trumpeteer Republicans (Katie Arrington and Corey Stewart).

Well, that's depressing. That even the Tea Party isn't extreme enough now in some places.


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