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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#244376: Jun 4th 2018 at 11:44:32 AM

We'll have to wait and see what the consequences are, I was simply talking about the legality of race discrimination, which is undoubtely still illegal after this ruling and which the Supreme Court would never side with if such a case arrived at their desks.

The Supreme Court is currently five/four in favour of conservatives and reactionaries. The automatic assumption that they would dismiss race-based discrimination is precisely that—an assumption, and a bad one at that.

fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#244377: Jun 4th 2018 at 11:48:24 AM

The economy is great for the super-rich and bad for everyone else.

DeathorCake Since: Mar, 2016
#244378: Jun 4th 2018 at 11:54:14 AM

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Forget recent wage stagnation, there hasn't been much of a real wage rise on average since the eighties. That's long enough for low inflation, basically no wage growth and comparatively high unemployment to become normal to everyone, the recession just highlighted it. The few people who were in the labour market during the last days of full employment without the gig economy are now old, with piles of assets and a fixed retirement income, so they now hate inflation too no matter how much we need more of it coupled with wage growth.

[up]

The number of cyberpunk parallels is becoming slightly unnerving.

Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#244379: Jun 4th 2018 at 11:58:16 AM

@Ambar: Kennedy voted for ending the ban on "sodomy laws" on certain states and was the decisive vote in Obergefell vs Hodges. Unless one of the liberal justices dies soon and Trump replaces them with a crazy, legal racial discrimination isn't coming back.

[up] Detroit Become Human, set twenty years in the future, was pretty spot on with a magazine headline "0.1% of the richest people hold 94% of the world's wealth, politicians vow to fight this problem".

edited 4th Jun '18 12:02:47 PM by Grafite

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#244380: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:33:31 PM

[up] You know, when you say "unless... then" usually it's something less outlandish than "an 80 year old in a tough job passes away or falls ill."

Just sayin'.

The economy right now is worrisome that it's in this quantum state and Trump's approval is hovering because, by all merits, the average person should be distressed. Gas prices are jumping up, people are getting their taxes back and realizing they're not saving anything, and there's no indication that the average person is benefitting in any way. Yet people are still going "this is great!" and attributing it to Trump because... reasons?

edited 4th Jun '18 12:35:40 PM by Larkmarn

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#244381: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:38:10 PM

Stockholm Syndrome

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
#244382: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:41:52 PM

Kennedy voted for ending the ban on "sodomy laws" on certain states and was the decisive vote in Obergefell vs Hodges. Unless one of the liberal justices dies soon and Trump replaces them with a crazy, legal racial discrimination isn't coming back.

A court just ruled a few days ago that a black man's life is worth less than a candy bar. Legal discrimination does not need to "come back", it is already here and has been for decades. That's the entire purpose of euphemisms and dogwhistles like "religious freedom"—to keep legal discrimination on the books.

As for the "unless"...what Larkman said. You think there's no risk of an elderly person dying or having to retire?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#244383: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:47:31 PM

Just for the record: The new Ambassador to Germany has managed to piss off everyone again by giving a Breitbart interview supporting right wing populism in Europe. And that in the same week the Af D is in the news for having their Youth organisation sing the complete Deutschlandlied (Germany only sings the third stanza since the war since the first one is so closely associated with the Nazis, and since it has been adopted by the far right) and one of their leaders called the Holocaust "chicken shit" in the history of Germany. You couldn't make it up.

Honestly, where does Trump find those people? No ambassador was better than this one.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#244384: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:49:11 PM

Merkel should expel the bastard, and damn the consequences.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#244385: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:50:05 PM

I dunno, we should ask South Korea how they feel about not having a US Ambassador.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#244386: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:51:37 PM

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Depends on the ambassador.

Also, anyone ever notice how many Weasel Words Trump uses in his tweets?

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#244387: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:53:13 PM

> damn the consequences.

And cause an international accident I assume?

Not worth it,especially since Trump would milk it for all it's worth,it's better not to play directly into his tiny hands like that,

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#244388: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:58:48 PM

No need to take action just now, but remember the guy has been in Germany for what, two months or so? At this rate he will spit Merkel in the fact before the end of the year.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#244389: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:00:14 PM

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An ambassador is blatantly talking about trying to meddle with German politics and we're the ones causing an international incident?

Yeah, no. Least we can expect is that people send us diplomatic personnel that isn't stupid..

Though to be fair, this moron is a perfect representative of the US government.

edited 4th Jun '18 1:00:53 PM by DrunkenNordmann

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#244390: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:00:56 PM

[up][up][up]He's already caused an international incident with the entire Western world, this is just justified pushback. There is no placating Trump outside of capitulation, but the rest of the world put up a nice front in the name of diplomacy. Now that he's thrown the first punch, the gloves are coming off.

edited 4th Jun '18 1:01:03 PM by Rationalinsanity

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#244391: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:22:42 PM

I understand where you're coming from,although if Germany does expel him,then Trump will expel the German ambassador in retaliation,and then there'll be a war of words,Trump will rage on Twitter,bunch of rightfully annoyed countries will back Germany's behaviour..

Then what?

I'm genuinely curious what the fallout would be in this hypothetical situation

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#244392: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:23:45 PM

Sound and fury, but maybe it sends a message to Trump's other hacks and toadies that spouting off their mouths costs them their cushy jobs.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
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#244393: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:35:19 PM

[up][up] Trump would probably go through with his threats of getting rid of German Cars in the US, and placing tariffs on the EU.

But I would still fully support Germany getting rid of our toxic Ambassador to them.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#244394: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:49:34 PM

German cars sold in the US are actually built in the US. But hey, let him attack the supply chain. South Carolina will love the result.

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Would that it were so simple.
#244395: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:52:07 PM

Why the fuck does he hate German cars so much? Seriously, how much of the American market share does Mercedes or BMW possess?

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#244396: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:57:14 PM

If it were any nation on Earth except the United States I'd be like so 'sure,go ahead,what's the worst they can do?" but the United States is a superpower,they outrank you militarily and economically,i wouldn't risk it

edited 4th Jun '18 1:57:22 PM by Ultimatum

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#244397: Jun 4th 2018 at 2:02:04 PM

They are already fighting half the world economically, escalation is coming regardless so this is the time to start taking stands. As for the military aspect....while the EU does need US protection (unless that European Army idea truly gets off the ground), Germany has some leverage in that sphere as well. Namely, there are some US bases there that are critical to American logistics.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#244398: Jun 4th 2018 at 2:41:00 PM

I just remembered that America's still sitting on most of our gold reserves. Kinda wish we could actually get them back home at this point, especially considering Trump's obession with the stuff.

edited 4th Jun '18 2:41:25 PM by DrunkenNordmann

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#244399: Jun 4th 2018 at 2:53:10 PM

He'll do a Gordon Brown and sell all of your gold

all of it!

grin

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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#244400: Jun 4th 2018 at 3:00:40 PM

I dunno, we should ask South Korea how they feel about not having a US Ambassador.

At least Trump didn’t make Bolton the SK ambassador, we might have a shooting war already.

I would fully support Germany expelling this prick, and doing the same or arresting any reactionary bastards like Bannon should they try meddling in local politics over there, as Bannon did in Italy.

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